Hey all,

 

Now I will probably get shot for this, as its not a Skoda but it is still a BKD VAG lump and I wondered if you could help me? My cars been to the dealership for a judder felt through the car at idle which gets worse when you increase the revs to say 1200rpm.

 

In the last week or two the car has made a grinding noise as the starter motor kicks the engine over, and a rattle on shutdown. The engine also moves back and forth with a rocking motion.

 

I took it to my trusted mechanic who said DMF straight away. Can anyone offer any advice of how to avoid any major damage? Will it get significantly more noisy before it goes bang?

 

Can upload a video if necessary

Edited 18 August, 201510 yr by -mike-

Grinding noises? Rattling? Juddering?

 

The cause isn't your concern. The symptoms are enough to prove something isn't right.

 

Take it back to the dealer and tell them to fix it under warranty.

 

If they choose to change out other components before the DMF then that is their choice.

Grinding noises? Rattling? Juddering?

 

The cause isn't your concern. The symptoms are enough to prove something isn't right.

 

Take it back to the dealer and tell them to fix it under warranty.

 

If they choose to change out other components before the DMF then that is their choice.

 

They told me last time it needs to get worse before they can do anything about it. I'd have thought a DMF change is far more favourable than a DMF and a gearbox, but they didn't seem too bothered :(

Should DMF act that way when car is in neutral? Maybe it's the support of the engine (I'm sorry but I don't know the exact term in English).

But Silver is right - start doing something and after then tell us the cause.

Should DMF act that way when car is in neutral? Maybe it's the support of the engine (I'm sorry but I don't know the exact term in English).

But Silver is right - start doing something and after then tell us the cause.

 

Car has a juddering during acceleration too. I've been to the dealership already and so far they have told me it has to get worse. Problem is, the engine shakes the car on shutdown now, ASV should give a nice smooth shutdown and they have said the ASV and EGR are fine?

They told me last time it needs to get worse before they can do anything about it. I'd have thought a DMF change is far more favourable than a DMF and a gearbox, but they didn't seem too bothered :(

 

Bypass the dealer and contact the manufacturer direct.

 

The car isn't right, it is displaying noises and vibrations that it never used to. The car is under warranty - the dealer has an obligation to fix the issues as they are present right now.

 

Time to get a little firmer and dig your heels in.

Bypass the dealer and contact the manufacturer direct.

 

The car isn't right, it is displaying noises and vibrations that it never used to. The car is under warranty - the dealer has an obligation to fix the issues as they are present right now.

 

Time to get a little firmer and dig your heels in.

 

I don't want to make enemies at the dealership, I've got 9 months of warranty remaining! Can drop you a PM with the video? See what you think if you don't mind?

No need to make any enemies, you can be firm but fair at the same time.

 

The dealer is buying time, the reason being is that their diagnostics laptop can't diagnose the issue for them so they are nervous about replacing the DMF in case it doesn't fix the issue. This then exposes them financially if the manufacturer won't cover their costs. This is why you need to contact the manufacturer direct.

 

If the are anything like Skoda they'll open a case and speak to the dealer directly.

 

Remember you have paid for the warranty, you have rights, time to exercise them.

 

Stick the video on YouTube and post the link here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9558Ckwe3OI

 

Hopefully that works. Unfortunately it doesn't convey the lumpyness in the cabin, but you can see the engine moving around and hear the startup / shutdown.

Sorry, I was a bit wrong on my statements above. This might be a flywheel thing.

You can wait longer but this might end badly. More vibrations can be harmful for everything (engine mount, probably gearbox etc.). It's like driving with badly balanced wheels. Do you feel uncomfortable? Well, who cares. And after some while some bearings or joints have to be replaced...

No need to make any enemies, you can be firm but fair at the same time.

 

The dealer is buying time, the reason being is that their diagnostics laptop can't diagnose the issue for them so they are nervous about replacing the DMF in case it doesn't fix the issue. This then exposes them financially if the manufacturer won't cover their costs. This is why you need to contact the manufacturer direct.

 

If the are anything like Skoda they'll open a case and speak to the dealer directly.

 

Remember you have paid for the warranty, you have rights, time to exercise them.

 

Stick the video on YouTube and post the link here?

Have popped the video up! Thanks to you and everyone for all your help so far! I wish I'd purchased the Octavia I drove despite its niggles if only for the best of the VAG communities being Skoda based! I'll book the car in next week and inform them I'm going to contact the manufacturer about it also.

 

Hopefully this might add a bit of weight to it!

Just an update, the dealers have just had the car for the second time to fix this fault, first time they changed the ASV and called it a day. This time they had it three days, changed the fuel filter and called it a success.

 

I took it for a ten minute drive and low and behold judder judder and lumpy juddery idle is still there. I turned around and took it back, service chap sat in seat said he could feel it and they'd get someone to call me Monday. Anyone got any further ideas? I'm getting pretty pee'd off with the car now! :(