Argh the frustration! So many drivers out today in the dense fog we have here this morning with no lights on whatsoever, or only front DRLs. How bloody stupid do you have to be?

 

I wonder how many of them just rely on automatic lights and don't realise they don't work in the fog? Or think DRLs light up the tail lights (I know some do, but most don't).

 

I'd be very much in favour of 'you must always have your lights on if you're driving' laws, like they have in other countries to save us from these idiots.

 

I wonder how many of them just rely on automatic lights and don't realise they don't work in the fog? Or think DRLs light up the tail lights (I know some do, but most don't).

 

 

 

Most in my opinion.......................

 

 

Most also have the attitude that they can see, so "I'm all right jack".......................

 

 

I usually blind them with the a flash of the xenon's..................

Even Police Scotland drivers are around this morning with only DRL's on in Fog so no rear lights illuminated.

Including the Officer driving the white Mitsubishi EV in Angus.

 

Maybe tomorrow he will switch the lights on.

(Maybe someone from the Traffic Division will read this and remind the Employees & Officers when driving 

Police Vehicles to abide by the Highway Code, and common sense.)

If a car has DRLs the rear lights should be on too imho.

 

Sooo many people in fog, spray, rain, THE DARK (in urban areas with lights) who think DRLs mean they can be seen.

If a car has DRLs the rear lights should be on too imho.

 

Sooo many people in fog, spray, rain, THE DARK (in urban areas with lights) who think DRLs mean they can be seen.

 

A while ago I saw a Q7 driving along an unlit country road at night with only the super bright DRL LEDs on. Obviously no lights at all from the rear when he passed me. I was astonished.

A while ago I saw a Q7 driving along an unlit country road at night with only the super bright DRL LEDs on. Obviously no lights at all from the rear when he passed me. I was astonished.

 

Dash cam + old car = DRL Muppet hunting? Run up their arse then present the footage of them driving with no lights

Or of course those that have put their rear fogs on because it was foggy and they will stay on for the next week or so!

Because a lot of cars have illuminated dash whether lights on or off they think they are on as DRLS throw a bit of light up the road  , Proper pea soupers where I live and over the moors to  Ilkley, the worse is when it starts to clear and they come out of brilliant sunshine into fog and don't slow down or put lights on, beggars believe ! Dense fog ----Dense drivers! 

Yup plenty of them this morning.

 

Nothing but women in 4x4s to start with but then the blokes joined in. Plenty of others just with DRLs on.

We had this on Saturday driving from Luxembourg to Dunkirk.

 

There was heavy fog coming from Luxembourg and through Belgium. The number of drivers with either no lights on or just front DRLs was amazing really. Very stupid!

 

A lot were speeding too with visibility down to less than 100m.

 

Phil

Tomorrow we will be complaining about all the planks who had the fog lights on yesterday and forgotten to turn them off today.

Local radio discussing fog lights yesterday. 3 presenters saying they didn't know how to turn them on...

I used to spend a lot of time on the road. Simply shocking how few people switch their lights on for weather/lighting changes.

Tomorrow we will be complaining about all the planks who had the fog lights on yesterday and forgotten to turn them off today.

 

This I don't mind too much! Plus I think it used to be sign that the kids used to say they were up for a drag race at the traffic lights   

A quick flash of main beam is usually enough. No need for an aggressive '25 flashes per second' approach or a deliberate attempt to blind others by holding main beam on until you pass them, just a quick couple of flashes should 'remind' them that there is a problem.

Same again today.

 

Fog coupled with a low sun so we had planks with no lights, and more planks with dirty windscreens that couldn't see when the sun hit them.

Ironically, the strong low sun at 9 o'clock this morning meant that the "DANGER: FOG" message on the matrix signs along the Edinburgh City Bypass was all but invisible!

Perhaps fortunately, by that time of the morning there was no fog.

Sooo many people in fog, spray, rain, THE DARK (in urban areas with lights) who think DRLs mean they can be seen.

You seem to be assuming that there is a thought process involved. Sadly, as with a lot of driver behaviour, such an assumption is likely to be unfounded at best. In the worst case it can be downright dangerous to assume that the other guy has his brain engaged at all.

I remember on my 1998 (R reg) Ford Ka that the rear fog light had its own separate button.

 

Turn the headlights on using the rotary dial on the end of the indicator stalk and then press the fog light button down near the heater controls.

 

The little light on the button was easy to miss and there was no extra light up near the speedo.

 

However, when you turned off the headlights i.e. at the end of every journey, the fog lights would reset i.e. turn themselves off.

 

This was 17 years ago, does this not happen anymore?

 

Both my current cars are VAG so in order to turn off the headlights you first have to manually turn off the foglights.

 

 

Both my current cars are VAG so in order to turn off the headlights you first have to manually turn off the foglights.

 

My old Focus was the same. Fogs and lights all on one dial. Couln't turn on fogs without front lights and fogs went off with the headlights as well.

My golden rule is, if you can 'clearly' see the car in front without its lights on within double my stopping distance you don't need fog lights on

Too many people in urban areas are too quick to turn the rears in light fog when you can easily see the cars that are about 1/2 mile away.

The problem of DLR lights seems to be country wide as I see loads of them in the morning and at night as I go to work and come home with only these on and of course no rear lights on..

Personally I think DLR are a curse and should've been abandoned in favour of normal lights on at all times when the engine was running or Europe could have adopted the dim-dip lights many cars in the UK had where putting your side light only on also brought your dipped beam on at 50% .. this could've been automatically activated with the engine running.

DRL's could be improved by simply bringing on the rear lights with them.

 

Or equip all cars with front-only DRL's with automatic headlights.

 

Better still, stand at the side of a busy road as night falls and wave all cars without headlights on into a layby where their drivers are humanely euthanised.

My golden rule is, if you can 'clearly' see the car in front without its lights on within double my stopping distance you don't need fog lights on

Too many people in urban areas are too quick to turn the rears in light fog when you can easily see the cars that are about 1/2 mile away.

 

I go with that too. I've also educated the wife on how the auto lights work. Seen a thread over on the 'other' forum where someone genuinely thought that the auto lights also included enabling the main beam and fog lights as deemed necessary. Lets say that they were suitably educated by the other members.....

There a simple rule:

How visible do I think I am to others?

That works for me

BUT

Fog....No excuse whatsoever

It should carry a penalty like using a mobile...It's just as dangerous! IMO