anyway I just wanted peep PoV on things. Good to see a discussion.

I have never had a new car and I'm now half way through the 12 week wait and car being built this week.

I'm very excited about it indeed.

Btw my 54 plate cmax puts out a fair amount of black when I give it the right foot so how ever I look at it my new tdi will be better

You shouldn't see any black as the dpf is there to catch it!!

I suspect the VAG issue is just the tip of the iceberg !

In that case as VW have already said the euro6 engines are not effected stick with it otherwise you could swap to something else that is....frying pan and fire come to mind. Me I've got a mk2 vRS tdi so looks like I'll be getting a free software update though I've not seen if my road tax will go up or not if the car has its emissions retested.

Please remember that there isn't actually anything 'wrong' with any of these engines!!!! They are not about to break or do something catastrophic! Vw used their technological know how to circumnavigate the super tight US emission rules to try and get their business in America. Ok they went about it the wrong way but can the same be said about companies like Google who store all you information and sell it to companies then tell you it's to make your google experience better? Is this not also deception? The vag tdi engine is absolutely the best in the industry! The software is probably generic to all the ecu's on the 2.0tdi, but it's only active in curtain markets, except the new euro 6 units, which they have said categorically are not affected and well within limits so the original post is therefore unfounded.

Can anyone on here actually be honest and say they purchased their car solely on the amount of exhaust emissions it produces? Looks, power, performance, ability, or suiting there needs never came into the decision?? And the low emissions meant only that the tax would be cheaper so bonus!

Looking at it differently, anyone who is running around in a tdi that's been de-dpf'd is actually doing a thousand times more harm than any cheating vw engine. Partical matter is the real villan.

Yes vw were wrong but stop all the scaremongering it's getting boring.

Oh my tdi Vrs is being built week 45, can't wait!

Absolutely spot on mate regarding reason you chose the car. If it was 100% on emissions, then go by a Leaf!!!!

In that case as VW have already said the euro6 engines are not effected stick with it otherwise you could swap to something else that is....frying pan and fire come to mind. Me I've got a mk2 vRS tdi so looks like I'll be getting a free software update though I've not seen if my road tax will go up or not if the car has its emissions retested.

Can't see why your car tax would be changed. It's based on CO2 emmisions which isn't what ths whole thing is about.

Current owners will probably experience higher depreciation and service costs as a knock on from loss of trust in VAG.

I've run diesels for years but bought a petrol recently. I think the tide is turning against diesel in general and this deception may have accelerated its decline.

You'll see all, but especially diesel, ex-demonstrators offered with larger money off RRP, perhaps even off pre-reg cars too.

Used cars on forecourts will take a hit too. Should you try to get money off ordered products? Damned right, it'll bite you when you sell it so ease some pain now. If you've already bought, like me, you just have to weather it and hope the pain isn't too bad when you sell. VAG bad news will drag on for years, especially if Americans have anything to do with it.

Well if that happens Skoda can have the car back

Proposed recall only affects EA189 so technically shouldnt affect any MQB based car as none have ever been fitted with the EA189. They have always had EA288....first EU5+ compliant, now more recently EU6. I think the 184 TDI may have always been EU6.

If you had a diesel Mk2 Octavia, Mk2 Fabia, Mk6 Golf, Mk7 Passat then yes you'd be affected.

Proposed recall only affects EA189 so technically shouldnt affect any MQB based car as none have ever been fitted with the EA189. They have always had EA288....first EU5+ compliant, now more recently EU6. I think the 184 TDI may have always been EU6.

If you had a diesel Mk2 Octavia, Mk2 Fabia, Mk6 Golf, Mk7 Passat then yes you'd be affected.