An easy windfall for HMG, just up the VED on 2 million cars by £200 a year....would any government miss that?

I'm teaching them a lesson by trading in my 2011 diesel for a brand new 280 petrol.... That'll learn em 

I haven't heard much from the people who were and I imagine still are quite happy to have their DPFs removed in the search for improved performance despite the terrible consequences for particulate emissions.

Would I be right in a view that while the software apparently provides a means to cheat the US tests, it is not necessary for the UK tests and indeed the cars meet the required UK standard?

I was told by my dealer on Friday that my 2.0 Tdi will need a software upgrade only, no hardware changes.

In due course we will find out more and presumably once the first cars have been sorted there will be feedback.

I don't feel cheated. As an earlier poster stated, mine is a damn good car with a good engine.

So VW have tried to cheat. Problem was they got caught. I wonder how many other manufacturers have hurriedly set about cleaning up their own houses?

Edited 12 October, 201510 yr by jst_at_home

To me I enjoy a sport called climbing, it's an anti-gravity based one, down with gravity. Today I spent £16 on a bit of metal that is 20g lighter than another bit of metal. Overall I've spent thousands on bits of lighter metal.

 

Today my rack is 20g lighter, I'm £16 worse off. I ate a mince pie for lunch with a bag of crisps and a sandwich.... those 20g are now on my waist, along with a few others from last week, dam mince pie season!

 

What the heck am I on about? 

 

Quoted figures are just that, a momentary glimpse into a perfect world. I could get better economy by driving around with just enough fuel for the trip and emptying the car of all my junk, including the new lighter bit of metal and the mince pie casings, there is more than one, there always is.

 

I do believe for some 1.6 engines with revised injectors there will be a change, I personally don't believe for the removal of the lines of code for the defeat device will alter real world figures. I do believe people will notice a change even on a placebo car. My performance is always better after I've washed the car and pumped the tyres up.

 

The big questions, again very hard to answer just now, is resale, performance, we've seen plenty of standard cars on dynos put out more than advertised, no-one is talking to legal co's about that.

 

TL;DR nobody knows, maybe a few people at VW softwarelabs, but they are probably going to be sacked soon for meeting a management set goal.

I may as well get the DPF and EGR removed and get a remap .... throw caution to the wind

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I don't feel cheated. As an earlier poster stated, mine is a damn good car with a good engine.

 

 

I do, or rather will/would, part of me choosing my car was low VED and high MPG, both might be lost due to the recall

I was told by my dealer on Friday that my 2.0 Tdi will need a software upgrade only, no hardware changes....

Yup, this was "confirmed" by the UK VAG CEO yesterday, but 1.6 version will have to have further mods including replacement injectors. However, I'm sure this will all change between now and middle / end of 2016 when they get around to recalling and fixing 5 y/o units like ours...

Yup, this was "confirmed" by the UK VAG CEO yesterday, but 1.6 version will have to have further mods including replacement injectors. However, I'm sure this will all change between now and middle / end of 2016 when they get around to recalling and fixing 5 y/o units like ours...

Oooow... I've just noticed the following on the BBC, that "Mr Willis said that recalls of UK vehicles would start in the first quarter of 2016..." Oh great, so it "could" not be starting in January 2016 at all!

Just had letters this morning ,I've got 3 and they are all affected "engines EA 189 diesel" , knew I should have stuck with mondeos

Edited 13 October, 201510 yr by peterposh

http://www.petrolprices.com/blog/more-bad-press-for-diesel-vehicles.html

DPF removal worry.

That's most of the black and white taxis off the road then

Our lads had a letter, hes got a 2010 Golf 1.6tdi 105ps

I have had a letter from skoda telling me my superb is one of the engines not bothered in the slightest