I'm not wanting to start a debate on the pros and cons of either draining through the sump plug or sucking out through the dipstick filler, this is purely based on those with experience of the vacuum based extractors.

 

I know that there are other brands available in the UK, Silverline and Snap-On etc. but I'm looking at either the US brand PELA or Sealey.

 

Both seem to get good reviews, for the occasional DIY'er like me there seem to be two options with each brand:

 

PELA 6000 (aimed at the consumer) - £37 (6 litre capacity)

PELA 650 (aimed at a more professional user) - £75 (6.5 litre capacity)

 

Sealey TP696 - £57 (5.5 litre capacity)

Sealey TP69 - £75 (6.5 litre capacity)

 

The little PELA 6000 seems cracking value, but it is too cheap to be any good?

 

Looking at the pictures below, both the cheaper and the more expensive options from the two brands look to be identical. Is one company buying from the other?

 

PELA 6000:

 

 

PELA 650:

 

Sealey TP696:

 

 

Sealey TP69:

 

Edited 16 November, 201510 yr by silver1011

I have the Pela 6000. Works without fuss.

The only thing I would say, is that some modern-ish cars (e.g. my 9N Polo 1.4  and Mk1 Fabia 1.2) have a dipstick tube that's too narrow for the 'probe' to fit down.

I can measure the OD* of mine this evening if it isn't in online spec sheets?

I've owned mine for a few years so they may have come up with a narrower probe since, but there's a limit to how small you could go before it would take an age to suck it all out.

 

*Edit: Vernier says 6.0mm

Edited 16 November, 201510 yr by Wino

I have a Pela 6000 done several oil changes with it now and its a great bit of kit.

I originally bought it to do the Cordoba as the sump plug was knackered.

Used it to do the motorhome recently too.

Also used it while doing my DSG oil change to get the oil out from round the filter (also use it for the engine oil filter too).

Can't comment on the others as this is the only one I've used.

You're welcome to borrow it Roy.

Phik

I've got the last one the Sealey TP69 it comes with a good selection of tubes and the larger capacity is good ,I use it at work and home and it stll works ok after two years

hard service.

I've got a pela 6000 and does its job, only comment is that it takes about 15-20 mins suck all the oil out but still beats the hassle of dropping the engine tray.

Thanks guys, that's PELA 3, Sealy 1 so far, although I'm still suspicious they are one and the same!

Hehe, yeah. Now that you mention it, it's hard to imagine that two different manufacturers are producing such similar-looking items independently!

I've a Pela 6000.  Does the job well.  If ever it broke I'd buy the same again 

 

Gaz

+1 for PELA     had mine for several years now   just get it hot especially in winter and remember that hot water ie; engine is not hot oil    also as in the Skoda dealer ref (tech section) it's wise to suck and drain first time to check your doing it right   needs a bit of fishing for the bottom and not too much pipe as it may turn back up   P.S I think Sealy just buy and sell with sometimes a hefty mark up :wonder:     

Edited 17 November, 201510 yr by cheshire cat

It'll just be re-branding for different countries. AKA Walkers and Leys, Lynx and Axe etc.

Get one fro screw fix

http://www.screwfix.com/p/oil-fluid-extractor-6ltr/21663

This is the one I have works well

Edited 17 November, 201510 yr by seboni121

This page suggests that the Pela 6000 extractor tube has indeed got narrower, probably in response to narrowing dipstick tubes.  I haven't checked, but I suspect that 5mm/3/16" will fit in the cars that I mentioned above.

Anyone bought one recently and willing to Vernier the OD to confirm what it is exactly? Ta.

Get one fro screw fix

http://www.screwfix.com/p/oil-fluid-extractor-6ltr/21663

This is the one I have works well

But that's a tenner more than the first one and it's exactly the same.

But that's a tenner more than the first one and it's exactly the same.

It's gone up in price since I bought it ? Mine was about £30

It's gone up in price since I bought it ? Mine was about £30

Says £49.99 on the site.

Says £49.99 on the site.

Mines about 4 years old though ;-)

Mines about 4 years old though ;-)

Yeah, but unless you're selling yours I'd say go for the first one.

Haha I don't use it I do it from the bottom now ! It's bloody quicker

After quite some deliberation I'm going to stick to dropping the oil out of the sump plug for now.

 

I won't go into the reasons why as it is a hotly debated topic that tends to ruffle feathers.

 

No doubt after crawling under the car again in the next week or so will see this thread resurrected 

 

Appreciate the help and advice though gents.

Borrow Phil's that he offered early in the thread, use it, then pull the sump plug and see how much, if any, more comes out.  That would give you best of both worlds, you'd get to try the vacuum method and find out for your car whether it does the job.

It'll vary from car to car, and the exact angle the car's at when extracting, of course.

Well, all I can say is wow.

 

After quite a bit more online research I went for the Pela 6000.

 

Only just got round to trying it this morning and it was bloody marvelous.

 

Helped by the fact that the oil filter on the BMM engine in the Scout couldn't be easier to access the whole process was effortless. I didn't need to get down on my hands and knees once.

 

In fact the hardest bit was stretching up to the top shelf in the garage to grab the new oil 

 

The Pela is quality too, a nice thick tube which doesn't crush under vacuum, a nice narrow metal lined end piece fitted into the dipstick tube perfectly, the wide base makes the unit very stable so it sat on top of the engine. The pump is very sturdy too.

 

It took about 20 minutes to extract all of the oil, that includes 5 minutes wasted after I realised you need to keep pumping every few minutes. The ease at which the pump is operated is a great signal as to the amount of pressure remaining. If it pumps easily, then pump away. If it is harder to pump then there is still plenty of vacuum.

 

It is also very easy to tell when it has finished too. You get a nice reassuring sucking noise as it grabs the last remaining oil.

 

The last part was how clean it was too, very little dirty oil on my hands at all, none on the floor, none in the engine bay and non in the garage. It even comes with a spout so you can decant the old oil into the empty oil container.

 

I'm converted. I appreciate the sump plug / extraction debate will continue but after doing both I'm pretty convinced there was very little oil if any left behind. I got the engine nice and hot and then let it cool so that it was warm, any contaminants will have still been held in the oil. The fact the car holds 4.3 litres and I ended up 1 or 2 centimeters above the 4 litre ring suggests to me that it is all out.

 

Best £40 I've spent in a long time. Some pictures I took...

 

 

 

 

After 10 minutes or so and about 30-40 pumps...

 

 

All out!

 

Welcome aboard.

now where's that lawn mower

After quite some deliberation I'm going to stick to dropping the oil out of the sump plug for now.

 

I won't go into the reasons why as it is a hotly debated topic that tends to ruffle feathers.

 

No doubt after crawling under the car again in the next week or so will see this thread resurrected 

 

Appreciate the help and advice though gents.

I have the Sealey version and my dad has the Pela, they are both identical and i'm convinced they are made by the same manufacturer

 

**didn't see the post where you had actually bought one***

Edited 31 January, 201610 yr by SuperbTWM

now where's that lawn mower

 

Lol, I'll be looking for anything to try it on now!