Great to see that your IT problems have been resolved and your normal service of relentless knocking of VW over their foolish failure to listen to you has been resumed. Despite your protestations, I suspect that the number of OCD sufferers who lie awake at night worrying about how to check their oil level is negligible.

 

Go buy Japanese, you know it makes sense

 

ahhh - just seen that you are back to plugging your mates at Revo as well - excellent!

Edited 6 December, 201510 yr by vxh26

REVO's Remap for the 1.4 TSI / TFSI 132-136kw Twincharger was terrible, hopeless and really bad.

Their compilation of possible issues is handy.

 

Your only interest seems to be to slag me while being a VW fan boy without ever buying their cars.

Personally i have had Japanese cars built in Hungary for 15 years now.

[snip]

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Have you had any dealings with these engines, looked at the sensors or plugged into the OBD?

[snip]

Nope.

Oil level sensor in e.g. 2012 CAVE looks to be the same 1J0907660C part as my 2003 Polo though.

Edited 6 December, 201510 yr by Wino

They are indeed, come 2009 they were the same Oil level sensor. Oil Pressure Sensor etc etc, CAVE, 

and they are no better when the engine gets updated to a CTHE.

Just a selection of different ECU's used and Engine managements, 2009-2011, 2011-2012. 2012-2013. and 2013-2014.

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/230124-low-oil-warning

VW knew their fundamental design and manufacturing failures from the Seat Ibiza Cupra Twincharger in 2009 

(& before that.)

on and then the introduction of the VW Polo GTI & Skoda Fabia Mk2 Twinchargers, then the A1 185 ps, 

yet when the engine was revised in 2012 they never did anything to improve the Oil level Indicator, 

still having it that an engine could be 1/3rd or more low on oil and no warning light or message.

 

http://adamlewin.co.uk/vw-mk5-golf-tsi-engine-timing-chain-problem

Edited 6 December, 201510 yr by GoneOffskiroottoot

So no obvious reason to think VCDS couldn't be a useful tool for monitoring oil levels/usage, then?

Yes great.

VW the 2nd biggest car manufacturer in the world should have used their engineers and sub contractors to come up with 'the fix;.

they had 9-10 years to do it.

 

Let us know how you get on with yours.

VW will be pleased to hear from you no doubt.

 

Until you have the 'Fix'  maybe people will just check their oil occasionally with the Dip Stick provided.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/230124-low-oil-warning

Edited 6 December, 201510 yr by GoneOffskiroottoot

Whatever method you choose, do it consistently.

 

My procedure is to do it first thing in the morning and keep the level at top of cross-hatched section.

Yes great.

VW the 2nd biggest car manufacturer in the world should have used their engineers and sub contractors to come up with 'the fix;.

they had 9-10 years to do it.

Let us know how you get on with yours.

VW will be pleased to hear from you no doubt.

Until you have the 'Fix' maybe people will just check their oil occasionally with the Dip Stick provided.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/230124-low-oil-warning

What on earth are you on about. I'm trying to help people here.

Help them then, what are you going to do?

What exactly have you discovered that people can go and do to their cars?

Edited 6 December, 201510 yr by GoneOffskiroottoot

I think other people will understand the potential value of what I'm suggesting even if you're struggling.

Right now in front of me i have a Stripped down being rebuilt Twincharger, a lovely lovely thing, a nice set of components ready it be fitted.

i understand the value of what you are suggesting.

 

So please continue, and explain what someone has to do now with that information.

Err, it's an indication of oil level, which those who have VCDS can use as an alternative/addition to their dipstick, to monitor what's going on in their sump.

Simply correlate what the dipstick shows with what the "level" shows in mb7, at a few points like top and bottom of the hatched area, at whatever temperature you fancy.

Sounds like a great system for those that can not be bothered or are unable to use a dipstick and top up oil when required.

Edited 6 December, 201510 yr by GoneOffskiroottoot

Really, looks like I did start something here....

Not to worry though boys, I've chucked new oil in today and filled it up to where it should be! Probably...!?

But as you already should know because you keep asking about it, the Recommended Oil,

Castrol Edge or Quantum Long Life III 5w 30 Full Synthetic (VW 504 00) does a Twincharger no favours. its pure cr4p really. Sh!te even.

But keep using it in your Twincharger if you have one vxh26 /vxh28, it is the Recommended Oil, is it not, not sure it is though.

It is an Open Market, so the Spec / Grade is Recommended.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/274913-oil-test-results/page-2

What oil would you recommend if the vw oil is no good for twin chargers?

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If you are doing regular oil changes and filters 5w 40 Full Synthetic to VW 502 00 is perfectly fine, 

Asda / Tesco / Comma etc are perfectly fine, or any brand you want to use

or 5w 30 Full Synthetic Long Life to VW 504 00,

 but there is nothing special about Castrol Edge or Quantum III Long Life, but that is a personal opinion based on experince.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE guys give this subject a rest - it started in December 2013  !!!!!!!!!

 

If people do not know how to check their oil level by now - well words fail me.

 

There are a number of these silly threads that continue to get added to  - what is the point?

People buy a car and find out in a few days or week how inconstant it is to check and its not like any car they had before.

The Owners Manual misleads them.

Its not like the same people asking, (well not usually)  its just they do not look at the dozens of previous threads.

 

If it was that straightforward to get the Level and the check correct there would not be so many 

VW Group Official Dealerships Technicians handing vehicles out to customers with the wrong quantity of oil, 

and other employees like sales staff that have not a clue, 

& this has gone on for 5 years now.

Edited 6 December, 201510 yr by GoneOffskiroottoot

George, I appreciate what you say but really. All that needs to be done is to fill with the correct quantity. Check level when cold - thereafter always check when cold.

This gives you a reliable consistent datum point.

The only inconsistency rests with the owners who seem incapable of working out a common sense routine, and never seem able to do the same repetitive action more than once.

I have a neighbour who checks his oil - but first he moves HIS CAR OUT of the garage !!!!!!! - He says (and I quote)

YES I'M DOING IT YOUR WAY - THE ENGINE IS STILL COLD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Yes, VW have a few funnies, but do not think this applies only to VW - the foibles found in VW engines are present in most makes. Let stop making oil level checks a matter of importance way above the simple check that most of us do quite easily.

 

The only aspect that we agree on is the poor standard of service work carried out in this day and age.

Owners should be aware that when I started my apprenticeship - 

1 - Sweeping the floor and making the tea was the lowest ranking job.

2 - Carrying out servicing was the next level up - we hated doing this, it was totally boring, did not call for any skill, and although it was a long time ago

any character who had once changed a head gasket on Aunt Mabel's Minor 1000 - was deemed OK to do servicing.

 

Servicing is an absolute money spinner - do not let any one be under any doubt. Look carefully at the list of work actually done - it may look/sound impressive, but it is still (most garages) a kick the tyres and pee in the radiator job.

 

Our aim was to leave behind these mundane aspects of the trade - we wanted to be proper mechanics for diagnostics - engine works - Gearbox repairs - Rear axle repairs - electricians, all the interesting rewarding work. There was no chunk changing in those days, a real mechanic was thoroughly trained to deal with all aspects of the trade.

I despair at the quality of today's mechanics  (sorry, today they are called Technicians)

 

So AGAIN, a plea that we throw this thread into touch once and for all, and get something more meaningful and technical on this forum.

Edited 6 December, 201510 yr by 2ndskoda

The issue is you can go to a forecourt and collect your new car at hand over or used and not check the oil,

and when you get around to it, checking cold, or as the Owners Manual tells you 'Warm;, 

and you expect that is the correct level.

 

So unless you do your own oil change with a Twincharger you trust the person had enough in.

Sadly often it is too much in a 1.4TSI Twincharger.

 

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What is different with these engines is the failure rate of the first 1,800 in the UK, 

and the failure of replacement engines, (some Replacement Engines have left Main Dealers with the wrong quantiry of oil in.)

then from 2012-13 even failures in the Upgraded engine. (CTHE)

1,100 of those in the UK, but less issues. Early ones did fail, Engine Management issues usually.

One Cylinder wears, Valves burn out, and one spark plug oiled and excessive oil use, and then a spark plug failing.

Engine now discontinued after Updated Breathers, Software Updates, Spark Plug Updates, 

Oil Spray Jets updated even in Updated Engines, and now still the later engines having issues.

 

When you buy a used one now its worth checking oil and any excessive use at least for a few weeks.

While you have a Warranty.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/294051-cave-cthe-14tsi-just-reply-please-if-you-have-had-an-engine-repolaced

Edited 6 December, 201510 yr by GoneOffskiroottoot

I now run with 4 Litres of 5W 40 Full Synthetic Oil.

<SNIP>.

Sadly often it is too much in a 1.4TSI Twincharger.

<SNIP>

 

Maybe quote the complete part or post if quoting.

Selective quoting and edited by you & out of context misleads as you know.

It is post #8 in tis thread.

 

Yes, because i know what i am doing, know what filter and oil i have in troll.

Know what engine management i have and what parts i am using.

Works for me, and i can replace an engine because i have some.

 

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How many miles have you done now with a VRS, and how often have you wiped your dipstick?

Edited 7 December, 201510 yr by GoneOffskiroottoot

I check my oil when the car has been standing over night and is cold that way all the oil has drained to the sump and you can get the most accurate reading!

Reet, my last and final post..

Having done my oil change yesterday, I'd say the 'main stealers' never changed the oil- it's was filthy!

So, peace of mind has prevailed for me at least.

As for levels, balls to the lot of it- I'll just check it and maintain it cold... Never done any of my other motors any harm.

Thanks to those who have offered helpful advice, must admit I thought changing to a VAG from Ford wouldn't be as much fun as this..

Cheers!

Edited 7 December, 201510 yr by mac26