Two days ago I saw a white 2012 2wd Yeti (think it was SE) that had is side lights and daylight running lights on. It looked good as far as I can see on mine my daylight running lights turn off when I switch my side or head lights on?

Is there a way to configure this I looked through the maxi dot and could only find and option to turn them off ? Or was I mistaking his dlr lights for his fog lights and side lights ?

I think you were confusing the DRL's and the fog lights.

Must have been. Seems odd that the fog lights wouldnt cancel the side lights out? don't head lights cancel fog lights out.

On most cars you can have the fog lights on with either side lights or headlights.

Must have been. Seems odd that the fog lights wouldnt cancel the side lights out? don't head lights cancel fog lights out.

 

Side lights are statutory so cannot be turned off.

If fog lights turned side lights off there would be no lights at the rear of the car.

Fog lights can be on with side, head and main beam lights.

Sidelights have to stay on when either fog or headlights are in use in order to maintain an indication of the width of the vehicle at night.in the event of a fog or headlight bulb failing.

I tested all the combinations last night on a quiet country lane. It's the first time Ive ever turned them on at night, they kick out a lot of light.

For some reason I thought that fog lights were always front and rear hence cancelling the side lights. I noticed they are selectable front only in the Yeti, so indeed without side lights on id have no lights on at the rear. I read somewhere on brisk skoda that the headlights cancelled the fog lights because when on they were more effective - maybe it does on some models and not the yeti.

OK so here is the next question can I keep day light running lights on with other light combinations ? The yeti looks better with both light units on.

On some vehicles putting on Full Beam cancels Fog Lights. (Front Ones.)

 

In the UK if you read the Highway Code you will see that in Fog (Poor Visibility) you should use Dipped Headlights, (So Sidelights /Position Lights are also on.)

and you May Use Fog Lights, (Not all cars have Front Fog Lights.)

and put the Fog Lights off when not required. (do not dazzle other road users.)

 

People do drive with Side Lights & Fog Lights because they have experience of this working in Fog, 

and believe that is what is correct to do.

It is not according to the Law and the UK Highway Code.

No, they are daylight running lights, so are off when other lights are on. There are two positions on the fog light switch, pull out once front fogs, pull again rear fog on also. Don't forget fog lights are for when it's foggy, not for decoration.

On some vehicles putting on Full Beam cancels Fog Lights. (Front Ones.)

 

In the UK if you read the Highway Code you will see that in Fog (Poor Visibility) you should use Dipped Headlights, (So Sidelights /Position Lights are also on.)

and you May Use Fog Lights, (Not all cars have Front Fog Lights.)

and put the Fog Lights off when not required. (do not dazzle other road users.)

 

People do drive with Side Lights & Fog Lights because they have experience of this working in Fog, 

and believe that is what is correct to do.

It is not according to the Law and the UK Highway Code.

 

If front fog lights are actually needed (rarely) then xenon dip beam is usually too bright and white and the fog scatters the light reducing visibility (similar to putting your main beam on)

 

So whilst it may (I have not personally checked) be against what is in the highway code the important thing to remember is:

 

Rear fog lights are to enable other road users to see you... in reduced visibility.

Front fog lights are there to enable YOU to see better, in my experience if your dip beam is not scattering the light in front of your car reducing YOUR visibility then front fog lights are not NEEDED anyway.

 

The most important thing IMO is that they are not a ‘turn them on at the start of the journey and turn them off when you arrive light’ your journey may require you to turn them on and off several times.

Edited 27 December, 201510 yr by Gizmo68

You are a professional driver are you not, covering high annual mileages, and drive privately, so is Fog rare where you drive, ?

because Fog and frozen fog is common enough in many areas even in the UK.

 

Seems a bit high figures from this Insurance Provider, but then they are prone to 'quoting high'.

http://swiftcover.com/about/press/fog-lights

Edited 27 December, 201510 yr by GoneOffskiroottoot

Not at all, Capel Le Ferne is one of the foggiest stretches of road in the UK apparently (it comes off the English Channel)

 

But rarely is the fog bad enough that the front fog lights improve visibility.

 

I can honestly say that in my 30 years of driving 100K miles PA I have only NEEDED front fog lights to be on less than a dozen times.

Rear fog lights however go on much more frequently.

Lucky you.

^^ but with the yeti you have to have front fogs on before the rears will work, I realise perhaps its possible to change this by reversing feeds on the switch!

^^ but with the yeti you have to have front fogs on before the rears will work, I realise perhaps its possible to change this by reversing feeds on the switch!

 

Agreed (actually it’s all? VAG cars) which is why I said NEEDED:

 

I can honestly say that in my 30 years of driving 100K miles PA I have only NEEDED front fog lights to be on less than a dozen times.

Rear fog lights however go on much more frequently.

Two days ago I saw a white 2012 2wd Yeti (think it was SE) that had is side lights and daylight running lights on.

On my 2015 Bi-Xenon equipped Yeti the LED DRLs are the sidelights when switched on manually.

On my 2015 Bi-Xenon equipped Yeti the LED DRLs are the sidelights when switched on manually.

 

But you have a Facelift one, and the OP is talking about the bug-eye.

But you have a Facelift one, and the OP is talking about the bug-eye.

I think the fact I started with ""On my 2015 Bi-Xenon equipped Yeti"" shows I was talking about the facelift, you may not be interested with the comparison but others may be and by starting my comment like that others should not be confused.

On some vehicles putting on Full Beam cancels Fog Lights. (Front Ones.)

 

In the UK if you read the Highway Code you will see that in Fog (Poor Visibility) you should use Dipped Headlights, (So Sidelights /Position Lights are also on.)

and you May Use Fog Lights, (Not all cars have Front Fog Lights.)

and put the Fog Lights off when not required. (do not dazzle other road users.)

 

People do drive with Side Lights & Fog Lights because they have experience of this working in Fog, 

and believe that is what is correct to do.

It is not according to the Law and the UK Highway Code.

I don't make a habit of using my fog lights unless needed, especially as my cars now have excellent Xenons, but on my previous Passats I sometimes used them as auxillary lights when driving down windy, poorly lit roads, because the lights on those were pretty poor (intensity and pattern), though I used to turn them off when cars approached.

 

But I have to say, despite complaints to the contrary, that I don't tend to get dazzled by cars driving towards me with their fogs on, even when I'm in cars lower than the Yeti. Why should they dazzle given as fog lights they are designed to illuminate the road just in front of the car?

 

Their use may not be condoned, but if you are on your own and it allows you to see better and therefore increases your safety then why not? Cue righteous indignation!

 

Not so much now (less need I guess) but what happened to driving lamps? My Peugeot 309 Gti used to have fog lights and driving lamps and when I wanted to be a wanabee rally driver down the lanes I used to have all 6 lights on! Yes, I was much younger and a bit of a boy racer then!

Edited 28 December, 201510 yr by VAGCF

If nobody else sees them then why should they dazzle. Just like Full Beam on or Spot lights they can be put off when people are coming towards you if they are only an additional aid.

 

Where they might dazzle is at junctions at different levels, coming up or down inclines and the likes, 

and it is not just motorised vehicles that are on public roads.

A vehicles lights might light up the road for that driver and cause issues with others not seeing obstacles in between the vehicles,

but then most of us have experienced that.

 

People upgrade the Bulbs in Fog Lights and then they become something else really.

But seeing as we are all responsible if we know what lights we have, we should know when to use them responsibly.

 

Be seen, be bright, and dip dont dazzle.

If nobody else sees them then why should they dazzle. Just like Full Beam on or Spot lights they can be put off when people are coming towards you if they are only an additional aid.

 

Where they might dazzle is at junctions at different levels, coming up or down inclines and the likes, 

and it is not just motorised vehicles that are on public roads.

A vehicles lights might light up the road for that driver and cause issues with others not seeing obstacles in between the vehicles,

but then most of us have experienced that.

 

People upgrade the Bulbs in Fog Lights and then they become something else really.

But seeing as we are all responsible if we know what lights we have, we should know when to use them responsibly.

 

Be seen, be bright, and dip dont dazzle.

Yes, but that can happen with dipped beam lights. And on the FL (don't know about earlier versions) the fog lights are used as slow speed cornering lights, so if you approach an uphill junction you could dazzle other motorists - I've wondered about the legality of using the fog lights like that.

 

To be honest I get dazzled more by incorrectly adjusted head lights than fog lights not to mention those LED lights that cyclists use!

Life is full of these little issues. Last night every car approaching a cyclist flashed him it was like a Million candle light or laser he was shining towards drivers. The roads have all sorts on them and such a variety of lighting.

Edited 29 December, 201510 yr by GoneOffskiroottoot

Yes, but that can happen with dipped beam lights. And on the FL (don't know about earlier versions) the fog lights are used as slow speed cornering lights, so if you approach an uphill junction you could dazzle other motorists - I've wondered about the legality of using the fog lights like that.

 

To be honest I get dazzled more by incorrectly adjusted head lights than fog lights not to mention those LED lights that cyclists use!

 

They are completely legal, otherwise the car would not have been Type Approved.

All covered in the Vehicle Lighting Regulations 1989 and subsequent legislation.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1989/1796/contents/made

We know that Cornering 'Fog Lights' are Type Approved.

 

But can you point out where the Front Lights, Head Light, Side Light, Fog Light can be used singularly.

 

Indicators, parking lights, High Level Brake Lights and Rear Fog Lights can be used Singularly. 

ie not on as a pair.

 

Is there some Highway Code or UK Traffic act update that says that a Single Fog Lights use is OK when Visibility does not require 

the use of Front Fog lights?

 

Is there no Grey Area here between Construction and Use, EU Type Approval and the UK Traffic Acts and Highway code?

The cornering fog light function only works when dipped or main beam headlights are on as well, so there's always a minimum of 2 forward facing lights . As long as there is a pair of headlights, a single additional light is permitted as long as it's not outside either of the main headlights.

Reading the conditions & use regs, I'm pretty sure that legally you can use the pre-facelift Yeti's front fogs in addition to the standard headlights as they are mounted above the minimum height for headlights and therefore shouldn't dazzle oncoming motorists. They are certainly excellent on twisty single track country roads as they project a very useful wide beam, albeit with a sharp cut-off straight ahead. I do use them as such occasionally, though I always turn them off if encountering an oncoming car.