Anyone have or had one? Thoughts?

 

I see from a quick search that the VAG 2.0 TDI has caused problems in the past, but not for models after 2010?

 

 

Pastyboy has one or had one: http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/308235-the-new-pasty-wagon/

Pastyboy has one or had one: http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/308235-the-new-pasty-wagon/

 

Thanks for that. Interesting reading.

Indeed i do. Still with us after another 14k miles since i last updated the thread; but the thread says it all really.

 

With the lack of a similar engined mk2 Fabia it was the logical choice after my mk1 VRS was written off.

It's done everything I expect of it admirably well.

It returns decent economy with purposeful performance, economy down but performance up since the tuining box.

It's a nice place to be on a journey; and to my eye is the best looking of this gen Ibiza bar the Cupra & Bocanegra.

 

That said it isn't that refined inside with a lot of road noise being transmitted into the cabin, although i have run winter tyres all yeasr.

The suspension is pretty crashy being on par with the lowered, stiffened, rolling-on-18s of the wife's A3 S-Line,

The radio is a bit all over the place - reception seems poor and the ergonomics of the menus is a bit all over the place

Although I've plugged my ipod in to the standard aux in socket, switched it to AUX IN mode and left well alone.

 

Mechanically I've not had a single issue.

It's had a minor and major service including cambelt and needed nothing else.

As with most VAG cars the geometry seems pretty fickle as I've had it tracked 3 times and full alignment once and dead ahead is still a few degrees off centre on the steering wheel.

That said I hit a a pot hole which was deep enough to bend the alloy earlier in the year, and whilst the garage found nothing when it was serviced i'm pretty sure there may a slight underlying suspension issue, so maybe i can't lay the blame on the car there.

 

Only real problem I find is it's just not that exciting.

I always feel it's the perfect second car.

Something that commutes well, gives decent economy and is just the right side of quick be be enjoyable everyday, but you'd be happy in the knowledge there's something with a bit more fire in it's belly waiting for the weekend to roll around.

Thanks for the reply PastyBoy,

 

Glad to read that your experience with the car has been mostly positive. I am really looking for something that still has a decent amount of poke and doesn't make my bank balance too unhappy. The FR seems to be ideal. 

 

I've found it hard to find something that balances fun and economy as well as my current car - Fabia vRS. It is just a shame that the Fabia is a ticking time bomb of financial doom!

 

A point proven last week when it decided to s*%t out a valve, destroying the engine. So the car hunting is on hold at the moment! I have been thinking about changing for a long time as I had no confidence in the Fabia long term, just didn't expect it to go quite so soon!

 

The Ibiza would be my everyday car of course, I would love a weekend toy, but that's not really feasible at the moment.

Depdends which CR engine it is, many are affected beyond 2010, so if it's a CR140/CR170 then you're out of luck.

Depdends which CR engine it is, many are affected beyond 2010, so if it's a CR140/CR170 then you're out of luck.

 

Is the 140 & 170 in reference to the hp? If so, the engine in the 2.0 Ibiza FR is 140.

Can't speak for the 2.0 but that age of Ibiza is incredibly loud. no soundproofing at all I can only assume.

 

We had a 1.4 but it was so noisy it was uncomfortable to be in the car for any length of time. Got rid after 6 months. Also had problems with rear drums but that shouldn't apply to the 2.0

 

ICE is stupidly set up as well.

We had a 1.6 FR for about 7 weeks a while back (courtesy car).

 

As pastyboy said... the stereo is just weird and I found it hard to use! I only figured out on the last day that it actually had Bluetooth and voice control built in!

 

The ride was pretty firm and jiggly over rough roads but at the same time it was a fun car to chuck around because of this!

 

The 1.6 was a strong engine and pulled well so I only imagine the 2.0 feels much stronger and punchier (105bhp vs 140bhp) while still delivering similar real world economy.

 

As it's the same platform as your Fabia underneath it's very similar in terms of seating comfort and leg room etc.

 

I found some of the interior plastics a little cheaper feeling than I would have liked but nothing squeaked or rattled.

 

And yes agree on the lack of sound insulation... but that may be the same in the Fabia? I noticed a big difference getting back in my Octavia.

Edited 8 September, 20169 yr by Phil-E

Is the 140 & 170 in reference to the hp? If so, the engine in the 2.0 Ibiza FR is 140.

Ahh it's an ibiza not a Leon FR.

So is the 2.0 TDI affected.

If it's CR140, then yes it is.

If it's a PD140, then it's too old.

I'm fairly certain, (but willing to be corrected) that the 2010 version would be a CR140 (EA189 engine), which would be affected by the recall.

If so my opinion is that it is either best avoided or worth it if you can get it for peanuts (and I do mean peanuts, not just a good deal).

Can't speak for the 2.0 but that age of Ibiza is incredibly loud. no soundproofing at all I can only assume.

 

We had a 1.4 but it was so noisy it was uncomfortable to be in the car for any length of time. Got rid after 6 months. Also had problems with rear drums but that shouldn't apply to the 2.0

 

ICE is stupidly set up as well.

 

I have been in a friends 2010 Ibiza diesel, think it was a 1.6, not an FR. Was in it for 3.5 hour trip to Brighton and don't recall being bothered by the noise. Probably just used to it from driving the Fabia!

 

 

We had a 1.6 FR for about 7 weeks a while back (courtesy car).

 

As pastyboy said... the stereo is just weird and I found it hard to use! I only figured out on the last day that it actually had Bluetooth and voice control built in!

 

The ride was pretty firm and jiggly over rough roads but at the same time it was a fun car to chuck around because of this!

 

The 1.6 was a strong engine and pulled well so I only imagine the 2.0 feels much stronger and punchier (105bhp vs 140bhp) while still delivering similar real world economy.

 

As it's the same platform as your Fabia underneath it's very similar in terms of seating comfort and leg room etc.

 

I found some of the interior plastics a little cheaper feeling than I would have liked but nothing squeaked or rattled.

 

And yes agree on the lack of sound insulation... but that may be the same in the Fabia? I noticed a big difference getting back in my Octavia.

 

I'd thought about the 1.6 FR, but doing some sums it didn't work out all that cheaper for me. Marginally cheaper insurance (not as much as I would have thought), bit less tax (£110 vs £30) and not much difference when it comes to fuel economy.

 

The Fabia does lack sound insulation, it's a bit noisy. Mine has plenty of squeaks and rattles, although some of that is probably due to the accident repairs. It has had a few knocks in it's time - all no fault of my own I might add.

 

It should work out a good bit cheaper to run than the Fabia, but I would have been happy to keep it longer if not for the issues. It really is a shame, it's a smashing car and great engine! If it wasn't so fragile it would be a gem.

Ahh it's an ibiza not a Leon FR.

So is the 2.0 TDI affected.

If it's CR140, then yes it is.

If it's a PD140, then it's too old.

I'm fairly certain, (but willing to be corrected) that the 2010 version would be a CR140 (EA189 engine), which would be affected by the recall.

If so my opinion is that it is either best avoided or worth it if you can get it for peanuts (and I do mean peanuts, not just a good deal).

 

Doing a quick Google search there and it does look like it's the CR140 in it.

 

I did notice that this particular engine is one involved in the VW emission scandal, but don't think that is anything to worry about. Unless say the tax band was increased drastically.

Doing a quick Google search there and it does look like it's the CR140 in it.

 

I did notice that this particular engine is one involved in the VW emission scandal, but don't think that is anything to worry about. Unless say the tax band was increased drastically.

Well the fact there are reports that they don't seem to be fixing it very well on the cars they are fixing, means if true the values are going to be significantly depressed if this is the case would be enough to put me off.

(Search the forum for the info)

Who would want a car that fails emissions, may or may not get reclassified in euro ranges.

May have issues / charges going into certain cities

May have increased consumption or wear issues if a fix is applied.

Way too many risks to chance my money.

Edited 8 September, 20169 yr by cheezemonkhai

What about something a bit different, Swift Sport? Colt Ralliart? depends on your commuting mileage I guess.

Well the fact there are reports that they don't seem to be fixing it very well on the cars they are fixing, means if true the values are going to be significantly depressed if this is the case would be enough to put me off.

(Search the forum for the info)

Who would want a car that fails emissions, may or may not get reclassified in euro ranges.

May have issues / charges going into certain cities

May have increased consumption or wear issues if a fix is applied.

Way too many risks to chance my money.

 

 

My understanding of the emissions scandal was, they fitted devices to cheat the test showing less emissions than reality. So I thought correcting this would not have an adverse effect on consumption or wear if removed? As they are not really changing anything except removing the cheat device.

 

Admittedly I have not looked into it extensively, so this is a little bit of 'making an a$$ out of u and me', if you catch my drift.. 

What about something a bit different, Swift Sport? Colt Ralliart? depends on your commuting mileage I guess.

 

Yeah, considered both of them. What put me off though is that they are not sufficiently different than the Fabia. Pretty much the same MPG, tax and insurance. I feel like if I'm going to change, I want a change.

 

By change I really mean a change in running costs, as I am aware the Fabia and Ibiza are pretty much the same car underneath lol.

My understanding of the emissions scandal was, they fitted devices to cheat the test showing less emissions than reality. So I thought correcting this would not have an adverse effect on consumption or wear if removed? As they are not really changing anything except removing the cheat device.

Admittedly I have not looked into it extensively, so this is a little bit of 'making an a$$ out of u and me', if you catch my drift..

Its been posted somewhere about a few cars getting "thefix" done and the car not running properly after, with the dealers then trying to claim no responsibilty fir it..

Dealership are right to say they are not responsible for any change in performance or efficiency or loss of economy.

 

They are acting as Agents for the Volkswagen Group.

So they need to note officially that the customer is reporting issues after 'The Fix' because if customers believe there is poorer performance 

& the vehicle uses more fuel there needs to be further investigations.

 

Plenty of Fleet Vehicles have their fuel use monitored, and the VW Group Main Dealers run Euro 5 TDI's which surely they must have applied the Fix to first of all.

 

The UK / EU Media & Motoring Press to seem to be taking a back seat when it comes to carrying out Dyno Tests 

and getting Fuel Consumption tests carried out Pre & Post 'The Fix'.

The power of the VW Group Advertising surely is not the reason Which, Autocar, What Car, Autoexpress, VW Driver etc are not really on the case.