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Engine swap 1.4l 16v to 1.8l 20v - possible?

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Is it possible to remove the the 1.4l engine and then just drop in the 1.8l engine? 

 

If not, what are other naturally aspirated engines that can make 100 hp or more that can be drop in fitted to the Skoda Octavia? I currently have the 1.4l 16 petrol. I was considering the 1.6 but the 1.8 is awfully tempting as well if one can get it to work.

 

Isn't really urgent, can't do it til next year anyway but want to start research early on so that I can get that outta the way.

Of course :)

 

You'd probably be best with a vRS or other 1.8T donor car for the ECU, looms and any other bits you need.

 

My Fabia started its life as a 1.4 MPI :)

Edited by DanHarper

Don't bother with the NA 1.8 20v, it's horrible.

Id just buy one with a larger engine to start with!

Don't bother with the NA 1.8 20v, it's horrible.

 

Oh I assumed he meant turbo :)

 

Would you be so kind as to peruse my thread Ross and offer insight if any is available :)

Id just buy one with a larger engine to start with!

Agreed, the cost involved to swap the engines over will be more than the cost of getting a car with the desired engine in it.

 

I picked my oct VRS up for pennys. to engine swap, will be 2K starting before you take any other 'Issues' into account.

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Thanks for the info y'all. I like NA because I am sorta trying to limit myself to 120-130 hp or so. mainly because I am a young guy and insurance would... do unpleasant things to me to put it nicely. + I am avoiding turbo because that's a heap of work to install, and is more that can go wrong.

 

Reason why I just didn't buy an RS with the turbo and all is because I've not found many of them for sale in Norway. Cheapest I found was like 8500 dollars (70 000 Norwegian Krones) and it'd been lowered (which is horrible in Norway, trust me) and fitted with a wing (a teeny tiny one but still attracts too much attention IMO, I like subtle). Regarding the price I mentioned earlier, I got my Octy for... brace yourselves... about 10000 krones (about 1000 USD), this did include like 4 sets of tires and yes, I did have to do some service on it (changing water and oil pumps, filters and of course changing the really worn timing belt). Got that done for about 400 USD with the parts and hands for it. So yeah, that's why I don't want to buy a new one, because I am a poor student and am pretty happy with my car. Sure, it's a bit scratched up (only comsetic luckily) and has a weak engine but I like it. 

 

I did manage to find the "horrible" NA engine for 4000 krones and I presume I could have it changed for a similar sum. So shouldn't be too expensive. 

At least in the UK, the (v)RS had a rear wing as standard (and was lowered wrt the other models).

Thanks for the info y'all. I like NA because I am sorta trying to limit myself to 120-130 hp or so. mainly because I am a young guy and insurance would... do unpleasant things to me to put it nicely. + I am avoiding turbo because that's a heap of work to install, and is more that can go wrong.

 

Reason why I just didn't buy an RS with the turbo and all is because I've not found many of them for sale in Norway. Cheapest I found was like 8500 dollars (70 000 Norwegian Krones) and it'd been lowered (which is horrible in Norway, trust me) and fitted with a wing (a teeny tiny one but still attracts too much attention IMO, I like subtle). Regarding the price I mentioned earlier, I got my Octy for... brace yourselves... about 10000 krones (about 1000 USD), this did include like 4 sets of tires and yes, I did have to do some service on it (changing water and oil pumps, filters and of course changing the really worn timing belt). Got that done for about 400 USD with the parts and hands for it. So yeah, that's why I don't want to buy a new one, because I am a poor student and am pretty happy with my car. Sure, it's a bit scratched up (only comsetic luckily) and has a weak engine but I like it. 

 

I did manage to find the "horrible" NA engine for 4000 krones and I presume I could have it changed for a similar sum. So shouldn't be too expensive. 

 

Be careful though - it may end up costing more than you thought, why I hear you ask? Well, factor in the other parts too. Will your gearbox fit? Clutch system compatible? same with driveshafts and engine mounts too. By the time you have got all the parts together, add in the labour, it could end up more than double what you are initially expecting. Also factor in consumables, like engine oil, timing belt and water pump change, new mounts (if the old one doesn't come with them of course), anti freeze - the list can get quite big. Don't forget the engine management system as well.

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That's what I am trying to find out. It's just hard to find out about the compatibility. 

 

I mean, if it winds up costing all together 1k USD (about 10 000 krones) then I could live with it unless I found a better octavia for 30 000 NOK ( because I can sell my current one for 20 000 NOK).

 

I just find the hatchbacks increasingly rare, most are either station wagons (just no) and the newer sedans (which don't feel as small and nimble as the "older" hatchback).

I don't know what insurance in norway is like but I think insuring an engine swapped car would probably be harder than insuring the faster car to start with, regardless of whether that engine was smaller or not. :(

It could be cheaper for you to come to the UK a buy a complete doner car and drive it home.

Prices are reasonable and you would have all the parts you need and plenty of spares.

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