I thought it would be would be nice to get a test drive in a 2.0 petrol Kodiaq, but that might be difficult for a while.....

 

So, after some thought I've managed to drive a 2.0 TSi Tiguan instead. I appreciate that there will be differences in size, weight etc, but it is the same power-train.

 

We (SWMBO wanted ago too...) quite liked the car, it's very much a tall Golf to drive, so very familiar control layouts & toys, but 180 PS just isn't enough to make it fun to drive. 

 

I decided that we would use the Superb to get to / from the dealer, as the R would have been an fair comparison, but the Tiggy seemed lacklustre even when compared with my humble Skoda.

 

The 7-speed DSG suits the car so no problem there, but to join a motorway & merge with the traffic required a heavy right foot, much more than is usual in any of our current cars.

 

The engine seems to be deliberately de-rated, max power is reached at 4K rpm & stays there. No doubt all to do with emissions &

theoretical economy....

 

I did peek at its fuel consumption, it had managed 27 mpg overall, we got 30 mpg during a 16 mile test, (nice mix of normal roads & dual carriageways), but recorded 37 mpg driving the Skoda back home, which has been it's long-term consumption for the last few months.

 

I suspect that the Kodiaq will have similar performance & economy,  so if we do splash-out on a new Skoda & we want AWD it will have to be a Superb 280 unless we were prepared to remap a brand-new car which might well have some warranty issues..

 

 

HTH, DC

 

 

 

 

 

I've driven a 2.0 Tiguan to give me an idea of what the similar Kodiaq might be like, but I've posted it into the Auto reports forum by mistake.

If you are interested you can read it there & if you know how to move it back to the Kodiaq forum I'd be very pleased if it moved there...... 

 

Cheers DC

The Kodiaq sibling will be the Tiguan XL when it comes out.

 

The mods moved it to the Auto Test section because really it had nothing to do with driving a Kodiaq other than being a 2.0TSI.

Tiguan XL will probably be sold in US, China and Russia but not in EU - I saw that info under autogefuhl's comments.

The Kodiaq sibling will be the Tiguan XL when it comes out.

 

The mods moved it to the Auto Test section because really it had nothing to do with driving a Kodiaq other than being a 2.0TSI.

Thanks......

 

The reason for the drive was to see if it's going to be worth waiting for a Kodiaq.

 

Apart from the longer wheelbase, the Kodiaq has a very similar MQB platform to the Tiguan & will have similar performance figures.

 

FWIW I doubt that finding a 2.0TSi Kodiaq demonstrator will be easy, so i thought I do the decent thing & post my findings on the Kodiaq forum.

 

I wish I hadn't bothered now, but at least I know that i'll be shopping elsewhere for my next car.

 

TTFN DC  

Not going to be easy until the demonstrators are delivered certainly, then they will be available.

Just for curiosity checked new Tiguan`s prices, and voila, there is a strong competitor.

240 HP diesel Highline Tiguan with dynamic LED, HUD, Discover Pro, Dynaudio sound etc will cost around 45 000 euros. 

Worth to think about.

Plenty SUV competitors if you want a 5 seater, less if you want a 7 seater.

Not going to be easy until the demonstrators are delivered certainly, then they will be available.

Maybe not, there haven't been many petrol Superb demonstrators in any of my local dealers.

 

There are some to be found in the more affluent parts of the country, but this area is diesel country for Superbs & I'd guess the same for the Kodiaq.

 

Anyway, the point is that the 2.0 TSi is going to be too slow, 'cos the engine's output has been capped at 40 ps below a Superb or vRS, & it won't be much fun to drive.

 

For us it's back to the drawing-board, there must be something out there that we would like to own!

 

DC

If 180ps in a 2.0tsi is not enough then that is how it is at launch.

70 mph will be the same speed in what ever vehicle you do it in, and that is about half the max speed they can do if you put the throttle to the floor.

 

Obviously getting to 70 mph can take a second or three more, but hey ho come time the same engine as a Golf R will go in the Kodiaq.

 

Looking forward to seeing a Kodiaq up my jacksy soon and finding out if they are really going to be high up show and little go.

Plenty SUV competitors if you want a 5 seater, less if you want a 7 seater.

We don't need a SUV for towing or for off-road driving, even less do we want 7 seats, but we are getting older & a "taller car" just might be a sensible option.

(ATM we can still use our EOS, so we're not too creaky just yet, but I'm trying to future proof our next car!)

 

The Tiggy & probably the Kodiaq, requires a degree of climbing in & out, so that's not ideal, there are plenty of crossovers out there but none that we can think of are affordable &/or fun to drive...

AWD could be handy in wintry conditions, if we get such weather down here in darkest Essex the R might be the car to use, albeit with a light foot......

 

So, assuming that I do decide to replace the Superb, I'm still undecided what to purchase.

If the facelift Octy has improved interior quality, (almost to Golf standard) & they were prepared to sell an AWD petrol vRS in the UK, that's probably where the cash would go, but that's probably not going to happen. 

 

 

DC

Try a Fiat 500X, i drove an auto (petrol 172 ps) for a couple of days and was pleasantly surprised.  (comfortable, easy access,not a big car though.

Not as marmite as a Jeep Renegade.)

Also had a new Nissan X-Trail out and was underwhelmed. (Diesel)

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We don't need a SUV for towing or for off-road driving, even less do we want 7 seats, but we are getting older & a "taller car" just might be a sensible option.

(ATM we can still use our EOS, so we're not too creaky just yet, but I'm trying to future proof our next car!)

 

The Tiggy & probably the Kodiaq, requires a degree of climbing in & out, so that's not ideal, there are plenty of crossovers out there but none that we can think of are affordable &/or fun to drive...

AWD could be handy in wintry conditions, if we get such weather down here in darkest Essex the R might be the car to use, albeit with a light foot......

 

So, assuming that I do decide to replace the Superb, I'm still undecided what to purchase.

If the facelift Octy has improved interior quality, (almost to Golf standard) & they were prepared to sell an AWD petrol vRS in the UK, that's probably where the cash would go, but that's probably not going to happen. 

 

 

DC

subaru outback maybe?

Plenty SUV competitors if you want a 5 seater, less if you want a 7 seater.

 

For me it`s not the seats. It`s how much of Q7 will you get for the price of Skoda, technology - wise.

subaru outback maybe?

Flat 4 engine, don't like the noise, + no local dealers.

 

Good try though, thanks.

 

DC

Try a Fiat 500X, i drove an auto (petrol 172 ps) for a couple of days and was pleasantly surprised.  (comfortable, easy access,not a big car though.

Not as marmite as a Jeep Renegade.)

Also had a new Nissan X-Trail out and was underwhelmed. (Diesel)

SWMBO has ridden in one recently, but was not impressed. 

 

It was a manual of some sort, but I'll peek at the specs though.

 

DC

If 180ps in a 2.0tsi is not enough then that is how it is at launch.

70 mph will be the same speed in what ever vehicle you do it in, and that is about half the max speed they can do if you put the throttle to the floor.

 

Obviously getting to 70 mph can take a second or three more, but hey ho come time the same engine as a Golf R will go in the Kodiaq.

 

Looking forward to seeing a Kodiaq up my jacksy soon and finding out if they are really going to be high up show and little go.

I'd be surprised in the R lump will ever be used in a Kodiaq, ISTR a report that any vRS version will get the 240 ps twin-turbo diesel.

 

For us it's not about the top-end speed, especially in the UK, but if you have to paddle back to 4th to safely join normal motorway traffic then that's

a bit sluggish when compared with my Superb.

 

 

DC

You are not even getting the same platform from a Q7 with a Kodiaq.

Audi's are often just VW's, Skoda's or Seat's,  a Kodiaq is not a Mini-me Q7.

What I meant, was: where else can you get important (for me) whistles like smart full LED headlights, nivomat, trailer assist, digital dashboard (very handy to use navigation), HUD, heated IR windscreen, TV tuner etc for reasonable price?

Honda, Hyundai etc SUV-s: no. Q7: yes. But also VW and hopefully Skoda.

I've driven a 2.0 Tiguan to give me an idea of what the similar Kodiaq might be like, but I've posted it into the Auto reports forum by mistake.

If you are interested you can read it there & if you know how to move it back to the Kodiaq forum I'd be very pleased if it moved there...... 

 

Cheers DC

 

Merged the threads to keep it simple.

Merged the threads to keep it simple.

Thanks.

I've no idea who I upset though.

 

DC

We don't need a SUV for towing or for off-road driving, even less do we want 7 seats, but we are getting older & a "taller car" just might be a sensible option.

(ATM we can still use our EOS, so we're not too creaky just yet, but I'm trying to future proof our next car!)

 

The Tiggy & probably the Kodiaq, requires a degree of climbing in & out, so that's not ideal, there are plenty of crossovers out there but none that we can think of are affordable &/or fun to drive...

AWD could be handy in wintry conditions, if we get such weather down here in darkest Essex the R might be the car to use, albeit with a light foot......

 

So, assuming that I do decide to replace the Superb, I'm still undecided what to purchase.

If the facelift Octy has improved interior quality, (almost to Golf standard) & they were prepared to sell an AWD petrol vRS in the UK, that's probably where the cash would go, but that's probably not going to happen. 

 

 

DC

Tiggy and Octy, I am sure they were in the Telletubies.

Tiggy and Octy, I am sure they were in the Telletubies.

Telletubies?

 

Kids TV? 

 

I'm far too old to have watched TV when I was young, just 1 channel & B/W only.

Thats interesting as my 2010 octavia estate at 197bhp even full of stuff and family rockets.

Is a lack of 17 bhp really making it dog slow, or is it just loads heavier than the octavia estate.

Some Kodiaq with just a driver will be about the same weight as your fully loaded Octavia with passengers and luggage.