I've been considering getting a new Touran 1.4 TSI. I don't want a diesel as my current journey patterns don't suit (mostly multiple short trips). Currently trying to get a test drive in one, but there don't seem to be any second hand ones for sale at all and the garages I've tried so far don't have any 1.4 TSI demonstrators.

 

Does anyone have any experience of driving one with this engine? I'm a little concerned that it might be a bit too slow once loaded up.

Is it the 125ps or 150ps engine.

Never been a fan of the Touran. Looks like a box on wheels.

Sure it's very practical, but it suggests you've given up...lol

Is it the 125ps or 150ps engine.

Never been a fan of the Touran. Looks like a box on wheels.

Sure it's very practical, but it suggests you've given up...lol

Yeti fans won't be happy with that observation))).....decals will fix that anyway

Octavia's suggest thrusting achievers aspiring to having a Superb or Kodiak or even that and also something for the weekend.

(the kind the barber used to offer.)

Is it the 125ps or 150ps engine.

Never been a fan of the Touran. Looks like a box on wheels.

Sure it's very practical, but it suggests you've given up...lol

 

It'd be the 150PS. Eye of the beholder and all that, I quite like the styling.

 

Looking for a petrol automatic that can comfortably carry 4 adults and 1 child, I'm not exactly spoiled for choice :)

Octavia's suggest thrusting achievers aspiring to having a Superb or Kodiak or even that and also something for the weekend.

(the kind the barber used to offer.)

 

I did briefly consider the Kodiaq, but probably a bit too awkward for the wife to get in and out (and I'm probably some kind of wierdo but I actually prefer people carriers to SUVs), Not sure when it will actually be out anyway, my local dealer doesn't have one yet.

In the age of social media narcissism, congrats for putting function over impressing.

I'd definitely drive one before you buy. I've driven a few of these low capacity turbo engines now and they have their own 'character'.

 

It's a character I'd suggest isn't very good.

 

If you're test driving make sure the test involves some slow steep corners etc that's where the weakness of the engine type comes in.

 

For 90% they're totally fine for the same tasks as larger engines making similar power but at low revs when the turbo drops out your 150hp 1.4 is suddenly 75hp until the turbo kicks back in again. It doesn't last long but these momentary drops in power aren't nice since they are inevitably at the point when you want more.

 

And the mpg figures are bs in the real world. They need worked hard those engines so it might well be worse than the larger engined versions.

Ours averages 60mpg and including some very slow city and holiday seaside traffic.....a CD of 3 and only 1150 kg helps of course.

1500 rpm is 95% torque and the torque converter means there's almost no hole.

I'd definitely drive one before you buy. I've driven a few of these low capacity turbo engines now and they have their own 'character'.

 

And the mpg figures are bs in the real world. They need worked hard those engines so it might well be worse than the larger engined versions.

 

Yes, I am concerned about the ability of the engine to cope with the car. As far as MPG goes, if I get 40 out of it I'll be happy enough. I'm currently getting 40 out of my current diesel - claimed figure for that was 57.3.

 

 

Ours averages 60mpg and including some very slow city and holiday seaside traffic.....a CD of 3 and only 1150 kg helps of course.

1500 rpm is 95% torque and the torque converter means there's almost no hole.

 

My current diesel has a torque converter and I love it. But my constant short trips (change in circumstances after I bought my current car meant a big change in my journey patterns) mean that the car has had to be recovered on the back of a lorry to the garage twice in the space of a year :( Hence the need for petrol next time.

Have to be honest.....whilst the 1.4 TSI is a very good little engine.....in a car the Tiguans size id personally avoid it.

Dont get me wrong...it will move it around with enough vim but a 1.4 turbo pulling nearly 1500kgs around...unless you drive it very sensibly I cant see it being overly efficient.

These engines work very well in the Octavia because they are c. 300kgs less.

I'd consider the 2.0 TSI myself.....it'll go better and real world I expect it probably wont be much thirstier...might even be better depending on your driving style.

Have to be honest.....whilst the 1.4 TSI is a very good little engine.....in a car the Tiguans size id personally avoid it.

Dont get me wrong...it will move it around with enough vim but a 1.4 turbo pulling nearly 1500kgs around...unless you drive it very sensibly I cant see it being overly efficient.

These engines work very well in the Octavia because they are c. 300kgs less.

I'd consider the 2.0 TSI myself.....it'll go better and real world I expect it probably wont be much thirstier...might even be better depending on your driving style.

 

I'd love a 2.0 TSI, but I don't think this is available in the Touran in the UK.

I'd love a 2.0 TSI, but I don't think this is available in the Touran in the UK.

Sorry my bad getting the Touran and Tiguan mixed up!!

1.4 TSI is a really good engine, but in a people carrier just expect its performance and MPG to suffer a bit when loaded up.

Personally I'd go 150 TDI as it will make easy work of being loaded up. So long as you take it on a reasonable run regularly you'll not experience any DPF issues. I think the light came on once in 37000 miles on my Mk3 Octavia....largely down tl my wife doing nothing but town work in it for a few thou miles and using none of the performance....but it didnt break.

It would be interesting to hear from those with the SCR 150tdi version as to how often they get a regen.

The AdBlue means the DPF doesn't have to cope with as much in the way of particulates due to an improved fuel burn.

As the Adblue is injected into the exhaust after the DPF, it wont have any effect on the way it functions.

As the Adblue is injected into the exhaust after the DPF, it wont have any effect on the way it functions.

The TDIs with DEF burn more efficiently without exhaust gas control of combustion temps via the old EGR cooler.

The particulate matter is reduced in quantity but there is greater NOx produced which is treated using the DEF injection prior to the catalyst.

There should therefore be less total time on regeneration.