26 minutes ago, littleade said:

As far as the compressor is concerned I got this one from Machine Mart when they were doing a VAT free offer,

 

https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/clarke-tiger-11250-2-5hp-24-litre-air-compres/

 

https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/kit-1000-5-piece-air-tool-kit/

 

You'll need a 1.5mm nozel on your spraygun for the ACF50 and 9.5cfm to power a decent spraygun. I also got the quick release connectors for the hoses too. Aldi and Lidl also sell them from time to time, but I don't know what spec they are.

 

Thanks for this....been looking at Machine Mart and SGS Engineering for the kit.

 

Thought about a gravity fed rather than suction spray gun thus not as much ooomph needed. Is the 1.5mm spray nozzle a minimum? Was looking at 1.2 or 1.4mm.

 

Saying that, I want a decent compressor that'll aid quick release of wheel nuts when car allots come off for cleaning n detailing or refurbishment. 

TBH I didn't know that much about compressors when I went to the shop and was going to get a smaller one but once he explained things I bought the kit I did as he seemed to know his stuff. An important thing is not only the capacity and flow of the compressor, but also the HP of the motor so you'd need to ask them what would be capable of doing the jobs you want. I would guess if you went gravity fed then you wouldn't need such a big nozzle, but then again they would be able to advise you better than me. I might have mentioned before that ACF50 is not very pleasant stuff and it's best not to spray it indoors as it gets everywhere including down your throat so a mask is advisable and if you don't get something with wheels you'll need a long hose to allow you to apply it outside. First time I sprayed in on in my garage  my car got quite a bit of overspray too which meant cleaning it after

9 hours ago, littleade said:

TBH I didn't know that much about compressors when I went to the shop and was going to get a smaller one but once he explained things I bought the kit I did as he seemed to know his stuff. An important thing is not only the capacity and flow of the compressor, but also the HP of the motor so you'd need to ask them what would be capable of doing the jobs you want. I would guess if you went gravity fed then you wouldn't need such a big nozzle, but then again they would be able to advise you better than me. I might have mentioned before that ACF50 is not very pleasant stuff and it's best not to spray it indoors as it gets everywhere including down your throat so a mask is advisable and if you don't get something with wheels you'll need a long hose to allow you to apply it outside. First time I sprayed in on in my garage  my car got quite a bit of overspray too which meant cleaning it after

 

Great advice there pal, thanks. Can't wait to get stuck in!! 

You will struggle with gravity fed sprayer due to the angles you will need to put the gun at get under frames, tanks etc. It will just splutter and splatter ACF50 everywhere. Ideally you could do with this but I think it is silly money

 

https://www.technolit.de/App/WebObjects/XSeMIPS.woa/cms/page/pid.102.104.273/agid.2473.3917.2492/lg.en/ecm.ag/Cavity-body-spray-gun-HSD-73-Set.html

 

2 hours ago, CWARD said:

You will struggle with gravity fed sprayer due to the angles you will need to put the gun at get under frames, tanks etc. It will just splutter and splatter ACF50 everywhere. Ideally you could do with this but I think it is silly money

 

https://www.technolit.de/App/WebObjects/XSeMIPS.woa/cms/page/pid.102.104.273/agid.2473.3917.2492/lg.en/ecm.ag/Cavity-body-spray-gun-HSD-73-Set.html

 

 

Fair point! Ok for part operation but certain angles would cause an issue. That looks a nice bit of kit...can't see the price but I'll look into it! 

 

Thanks

 

I've found it elsewhere but at the moment can't remember where. It was around £250 

15 minutes ago, CWARD said:

I've found it elsewhere but at the moment can't remember where. It was around £250 

 

Holy smoke! That's more than I'll pay for the compressor!! I like the design in principle n would love a wand with a 360* spray head.

This with a bit of modding may be a much cheaper and just as effective option

 

http://www.rust.co.uk/injection-wand-set/p413022

I've just had an email from Machine Mart. They've got VAT off until tomorrow night for their email club members if you're in a position to buy before then but you'd have to register for their emails and they then send you a code to either take into store, shop online or over the phone.

3 hours ago, CWARD said:

This with a bit of modding may be a much cheaper and just as effective option

 

http://www.rust.co.uk/injection-wand-set/p413022

 

Ideal! Will give them a bell to see if there's a way to fit. Thanks!

53 minutes ago, littleade said:

I've just had an email from Machine Mart. They've got VAT off until tomorrow night for their email club members if you're in a position to buy before then but you'd have to register for their emails and they then send you a code to either take into store, shop online or over the phone.

 

Thats good to know, gives me another option. Have another couple of irons in the fire.

ACF-50 arrived via mail today. Compressor n kit coming next week, happy days! Watch this space.

 

I'm starting to take bookings for motorcycles to include full clean n decon, machine polish, LSP application, be it sealant, wax or ceramic coating, or the ACF-50 application. 

20 hours ago, Chubbs said:

ACF-50 arrived via mail today. Compressor n kit coming next week, happy days! Watch this space.

 

I'm starting to take bookings for motorcycles to include full clean n decon, machine polish, LSP application, be it sealant, wax or ceramic coating, or the ACF-50 application. 

 

 

Nice one!

 

have you got a price list together? 

1 hour ago, fabiamk2SE said:

 

 

Nice one!

 

have you got a price list together? 

 

My website will be updated shortly as will the services tab on my Facebook page (Auto Brilliance). I'd appreciate a 'like' if you get chance to view!

 

Full decon & wash £50 - this is the basic detail, then choose your bolt-ons to provide the total cost

 

+ ACF50 £30

 

+ polymer sealant £10

 

+ durable wax £30

 

+ ceramic coating £70

 

+ machine polish £50

 

+ screen sealed with glass sealant £10

 

+ seat clean & protect £10

 

+ End can polish & seal £10

 

+ luggage/panniers clean protected - price dependent on material of luggage & protection chosen.

 

The options can be mixed & matched too, so, for example, one could have the ACF50 on the parts likely to suffer corrosion with a sealant/wax/ceramic on the fairings.

 

Prices are based on a 600cc sports bike so may alter slightly depending on the individual bike.

 

Discounts will be available for new customers & those who choose multiple options.

 

I always encourage feedback so I'd be delighted to hear your thoughts.

 

Best wishes

 

David

I'd be interested in the Ceramic coating of my K1600GT

 

I'd be mortified if it was detailed like this though Impressive results, but panniers left on when it takes 10 seconds to remove them, pressure washing near the Prop Shaft boots and near the wheel bearings, Disks not covered before applying whatever he's applying.

 

You can't argue with the results, but you can't detail a bike like a car, and it's GOOD that you are a biker (Ex or Otherwise)

 

 

 

3 hours ago, fluffmeister said:

I'd be interested in the Ceramic coating of my K1600GT

 

I'd be mortified if it was detailed like this though Impressive results, but panniers left on when it takes 10 seconds to remove them, pressure washing near the Prop Shaft boots and near the wheel bearings, Disks not covered before applying whatever he's applying.

 

You can't argue with the results, but you can't detail a bike like a car, and it's GOOD that you are a biker (Ex or Otherwise)

 

 

 

 

Thanks for posting!! I watched with baited breath.....we all work differently but, yes, there are different considerations with a bike.

 

We're not privy to any pre-detail chat between detailer & client, although if you're paying good money you'd think the panniers would be removed then addressed separately!

 

Some detailers use a pressure washer whilst others use a waterless wash system.

 

Personally, this again should be clarified with the client but it would depend on how dirty the bike was to start with, but yes, great care to be taken around certain areas of a bike.

 

He's applying the ceramic coating via the spray gun....never seen one applied this way, only ACF50.

 

Again, there'll be different schools of thought on this. In terms of the brake discs, I'd personally be protecting these, along with the tyres from a simple health & safety perspective.

 

I always tell clients I'm an ex-biker as, from previous feedback, it instills confidence in the client, as you highlighted.

 

K1600GT.....beautiful machine! If you'd like to discuss a spring detail with ceramic application please do get in touch.

 

Safe riding & best wishes

 

David

 

 

Detailed this weekend was this gorgeous Harley Davidson V Rod. This was a tricky one to do given all the exposed nooks n crannies as well as unsightly corrosion on the metalwork n wheel rims. 

There were some deep scuffs n scratches to parts of the paintwork too so extra time was needed all round.

The whole process involved a full decon n safe wash, addressing the corrosion, claying of paintwork, full machine polish then protected with wax n sealant given summer use. It'll be back later in the year for pre winter storage treatment courtesy of ACF50.

Brilliant job. Good work! 

 

Got it looking like new again eh! 

23 minutes ago, fabiamk2SE said:

Brilliant job. Good work! 

 

Got it looking like new again eh! 

 

Thanks!! Yep, I was nearly as chuffed as the customer with the results! He said it looked much better than when he bought it!!

Actually moved to fs365 last week myself.

 

just because im abit OCD and found that the acf50 made all the dirt stick to it and made the bike abit more difficult to clean. 

 

I know the idea is to not clean it and just keep riding, but i struggle to come to terms with that in my head . 

 

Fs365 is just applied after each wash. I cant speak for its anti-corrosion properties as i havent used it long enough, nore do i ride through winter. But it seems good so far. 

FS365 is brilliant stuff, providing you remember to re-apply as it's water soluble. One advantage to that is IF you should get any on a brake disk, you can simply wash it off. I use FS365 mostly now, but in Winter applied a coat of Bilt Hamber Dynax UC http://www.bilthamber.com/corrosion-protection-and-rust-treatments/dynax-uc to the venerable parts of the K1600, such as the sump, fairing brackets, centre stand, rear suspension linkage. It's a Wax based product so sticks like billio and has done the job well. It's a bugger to remove afterwards, their own degreaser shifts it, but the layer of protection it's provided has been superb.

 

I know there's a few UKGSer members on here as well, but if you have a look on the forum at Mickey's F800GS, that's now done well over 125,000 miles on just regular servicing, it looks like a new bike and all he's used, riding all weathers, is FS365 for protection.

 

If you can see the post, take a look

 

http://ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php/231934-Who-has-the-highest-mileage-F800?p=4518943&viewfull=1#post4518943

 

 

Chubbs. How long did that V Rod take you to finish.

10 hours ago, fabiamk2SE said:

Actually moved to fs365 last week myself.

 

just because im abit OCD and found that the acf50 made all the dirt stick to it and made the bike abit more difficult to clean. 

 

I know the idea is to not clean it and just keep riding, but i struggle to come to terms with that in my head . 

 

Fs365 is just applied after each wash. I cant speak for its anti-corrosion properties as i havent used it long enough, nore do i ride through winter. But it seems good so far. 

 

A good product no doubt, it just depends what the individual is looking for. It provides the consumer with an alternative to ACF50.

 

Having watched the YouTube vids on ACF50 application, the majority seem to blather the bike with the stuff, apart from the obvious brakes, pegs n grips/levers.

 

Application in this way is of course much quicker and I see this as the way forward for all year bikers more so.

 

Coming from a detailer's perspective, I'd like to offer a more personal or refine service where only those hard to reach areas need the ACF50 then other surfaces can be treated with waxes or ceramic coatings, or even paint protection film. This way the overall appears of the machine isn't one of a perceived gunk.

 

it also allows the owner to keep up there own machine n wash procedure without a full decontamination each time.

8 hours ago, fluffmeister said:

FS365 is brilliant stuff, providing you remember to re-apply as it's water soluble. One advantage to that is IF you should get any on a brake disk, you can simply wash it off. I use FS365 mostly now, but in Winter applied a coat of Bilt Hamber Dynax UC http://www.bilthamber.com/corrosion-protection-and-rust-treatments/dynax-uc to the venerable parts of the K1600, such as the sump, fairing brackets, centre stand, rear suspension linkage. It's a Wax based product so sticks like billio and has done the job well. It's a bugger to remove afterwards, their own degreaser shifts it, but the layer of protection it's provided has been superb.

 

I know there's a few UKGSer members on here as well, but if you have a look on the forum at Mickey's F800GS, that's now done well over 125,000 miles on just regular servicing, it looks like a new bike and all he's used, riding all weathers, is FS365 for protection.

 

If you can see the post, take a look

 

http://ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php/231934-Who-has-the-highest-mileage-F800?p=4518943&viewfull=1#post4518943

 

 

 

Good points well made! There will always be a case for the pros n cons of any product and individuals will always go with what product works for them, the one that meets their expectations.

 

I've looked into the Dynax UC, a very good product with many uses. If a potential client wanted this or FS365 over ACF50 then I'd be more than happy to meet their request.

 

 

Edited 6 April, 20179 yr by Chubbs

5 hours ago, Danny 57 said:

Chubbs. How long did that V Rod take you to finish.

 

Given the state it was in and the cost of the bike, the client wanted me to spend as much time as necessary to bring it back to tip top condition. It took 8 hours but the client was over the moon with the results as was I.