Hi

I have posted in the mk2 fabia forum about getting a newer car. I feel like I need a diesel as I do about 20k+ a year. However I am worried about the supposed hammering diesels are going to get. Do I need to worry or is it all political nonsense. Any thoughts people have or articles to share would be great.

Thanks

Steve

I think any changes to disadvantage diesel owners will come gradually, after all, we are the ones that have been swayed towards diesel by the cheaper tax. They have already made a step towards getting less people to buy diesels anyway by changing the tax rules so everybody pays the same rate.

 

It wouldn't surprise me if they started putting fuel duty up on diesel gradually as well but doing 20K a year your still going to be better off. Especially when buying a petrol skoda means you have to top the engine oil up every week.

See

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/02/government-will-publish-plans-crackdown-diesel-cars-including/

 

Was also mentioned on Daily Politics on BBC2 today.

 

Hammond originally was going to delay any announcement till after the election, but the High Court ruled against this.

Edited 2 May, 20179 yr by VWD

I would expect a gradual tightening of access to large CBDs.

They can't backdate penalties AFAIC.

My only choice then looks like a fabia 1.2tsi then

1 minute ago, V5-Steve said:

My only choice then looks like a fabia 1.2tsi then

1.2s aren't what they used to be 

7 hours ago, Ryeman said:

1.2s aren't what they used to be 

In what way do you mean

Just now, V5-Steve said:

In what way do you mean

Unless you're into burning rubber, in which case you wouldn't choose a diesel anyway, it's going to be significantly lighter, no DPF (yet) and no EGR cooler either.

Cheaper to buy, better for short trips, lighter over the front wheels, diesel like torque with petrol power and cheaper servicing.

Diesel would have to be substantially cheaper to make the figures add up or drag a heavy trailer or caravan constantly.

I see your point but doing 20k miles a year makes the diesel more economical. I like the thought of the 1.2 but need to do some more research on it and test drive one.

1 minute ago, V5-Steve said:

I see your point but doing 20k miles a year makes the diesel more economical. I like the thought of the 1.2 but need to do some more research on it and test drive one.

Our 1.2 triple is the 130ps/230nm@1750 version and is now powering the new 3008 too.

The old saying 'no substitute for cubes' simply isn't true anymore.

Looking at 5k so if I can get a monte for that I would. I like the thought of the turbo as I have never had a turbo petrol car.

They're looking at charging diesels that come into some city centres as well so bear that in mind if you do that regularly.

 

But imho if they're going to introduce 'pollution' charges for diesels in some cities they'll charge for petrols as well. They won't be able to resist.

3 minutes ago, Aspman said:

They're looking at charging diesels that come into some city centres as well so bear that in mind if you do that regularly.

 

But imho if they're going to introduce 'pollution' charges for diesels in some cities they'll charge for petrols as well. They won't be able to resist.

Haha

spot the cynicism.

6 minutes ago, Ryeman said:

Haha

spot the cynicism.

 

I'm a professional cynic.

 

But tell me I'm wrong

Just now, Aspman said:

 

I'm a professional cynic.

 

But tell me I'm wrong

I'd expect there would be questions from RAC members and others, asking for justification.

5 hours ago, Ryeman said:

I'd expect there would be questions from RAC members and others, asking for justification.

 

Petrol cars pollute too, therefore cough up. £5 for Petrol £10 for diesel.

RAC Members are no different from other UK Motorists. So not much influence in anything the UK Government does.

Rac members were just customers of the RAC which was a company owned by an American Corporation that had the ex UK Conservative & Unionist Prime Minister John Major as the Chairman of the European Division, now some other Wealth Fund Company own the RAC.

Edited 3 May, 20179 yr by Awayoffski

9 hours ago, Ryeman said:

Cheaper to buy, better for short trips, lighter over the front wheels, diesel like torque with petrol power and cheaper servicing.

 

I don't see how they are cheaper to service

 

Oil is the same, they both require an oil filter and an air filter of similar value.

 

Only difference is you will have to buy a fuel filter for the diesel and a set of spark plugs for the petrol which pretty much makes it even stevens

5 hours ago, SuperbTWM said:

I don't see how they are cheaper to service

 

Oil is the same, they both require an oil filter and an air filter of similar value.

 

Only difference is you will have to buy a fuel filter for the diesel and a set of spark plugs for the petrol which pretty much makes it even stevens

I don't know how they justify it either but it's not that much more.

Its the combination of factors over time, starting with the initial extra cost.

A further worry is reduced resale if 'the heard' turn their backs and run due to the big city 'mayoral threat'.

?

Who justifies it?  You mentioned it and it seems to be 'Fake news'.

UK Main Dealers charge the same prices to service Fixed or Variable with a Diesel or Petrol Fabia.

 

What Car and other magazines so Auto Car / Auto Express will be giving  group test figures on running costs with say a VW Polo & a Fabia Mk3 1.2 tsi which are basically mechanically the same car and then say the VW has lower servicing costs over 3 years.

Odd really but then VW Group are those that have given the Service Schedule / Guidelines.

eg, Mk3 Fabia just released and What Car makes it Car of the Year before any customers have one 

& Auto Express compared the VW on Variable Servicing and the Skoda on Fixed.

http://autoexpress.co.uk/skoda/fabia/89672-skoda-fabia-vs-vw-polo-vauxhall-corsa 

 

Edited 3 May, 20179 yr by Awayoffski

http://www.driverknowledgetests.com/resources/petrol-vs-diesel/

The OP was asking about a Mk2 Fabia.  UK Servicing most likely.

5 minutes ago, Awayoffski said:

The OP was asking about a Mk2 Fabia.  UK Servicing most likely.

A vehicle that light (compared to Yeti) would be perfect for the 1.2 I would have thought unless you're doing serious towing.

The greater the annual mileage the quicker you get to EGR and DPF issues without considering the extra initial cost.

Unless diesel is considerably cheaper of course.

The Skoda Fabia Mk2 1.6TDI CR Euro 5 is one of the vehicles that is part of the VW Emissions Scandal.

But then plenty have had no issues and not had the fix.

Plenty have had Remaps done and have 130 bhp +

 

The Skoda Fabia Mk2 1.2 TSI earlier engines might have timing chain issues, or may have had the upgrade.

Surely the current 1.2 is not an issue still!