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Hi Guys,

 

I under took the challenge to install a RLS in my Mk2 FL Octavia VRS and stuck at find the correct wire for the RLS?

 

According to this DIY http://www.myturbodiesel.com/wiki/rain-light-sensor-retrofit-and-installation-vw-diy/ it says Plug F / Pin 3 but the octavia has 3 BCM plugs Black | White | Gold as shown below

 

IMG_3953.jpg

 

I came across this persons thread on Vortex and he mentioned the LIN Bus wire is at location White Plug > Ping 33 (Purple/ White)

 

However on inspection at Pin 33 i only found a Purple white. So I tappend into it and connected all the neccessary wires. On activation of RLS I am getting no signal from the Rain sensor? Also no option in Cent Elect also for RLS? I noticed the same wire at Pin 35 which was Purple White and tapped into it but still no luck? :( 

 

Any body know the wiring diagram of octavia and perhaps help me locate the correct wire please????

 

Also this is the Scan of my VRS from VCDS

 

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 087 AD    HW: 1K0 937 087 AD
   Component: BCM PQ35  H   111 0709  
   Revision: AC111709    
   Coding: 46000AB8A04BB1C040080080150081EC472800AE524D8160808440040040
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00209
   VCID: 73E45A17D26A8EDAB1-8026

 

 

Edited by singh946

Got a full autoscan?

 

It should be pin 33 on the white connector, it's also used to communicate with the wiper motor.

 

RLS.png

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Thank you @langers2k

 

Here is the full autoscan


 

Sunday,27,November,2016,19:38:44:57254
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 16.8.3.1 (x64)
Data version: 20161010 DS267.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

VIN: TMBEH21Z3D2054264   License Plate: DE62XSD
Mileage: 60490km-37586mi   Repair Order: 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Chassis Type: 1Z (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 44 46 52 56 62 72
VIN: TMBEH21Z3D2054264   Mileage: 60490km-37586miles
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (CEG)       Labels: 03L-906-022-CBA.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 022 RE    HW: 03L 906 022 GA
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC G000AG  5752  
   Revision: 13H15---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0001078
   Shop #: WSC 73430 000 00000
   VCID: 79F8683F3006F48AFB-802C
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 058 L    HW: 02E 927 770 AL
   Component: GSG DSG AG6     512 3503  
   Revision: 05551213    Serial number: 00001208031280
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00209
   VCID: 23446A57E20A5E5A81-8076
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BK    HW: 1K0 907 379 BK
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0152  
   Revision: 00H31001    
   Coding: 163B601C092700FE680D06EA901D0082340800
   Shop #: WSC 28059 210 91019
   VCID: 7CF6712BFF34C1A2E0-8028
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 3T0 907 044 BR    HW: 3T0 907 044 BR
   Component: Climatronic   H19 0606  
   Revision: 00001007    
   Coding: 0010000002
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00209
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_SK35.rod
   VCID: 03040AD78ACABE5AA1-8056
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 087 AD    HW: 1K0 937 087 AD
   Component: BCM PQ35  H   111 0709  
   Revision: AC111709    
   Coding: 46000AB8A04BB1C040080080150081EC472800AE524D8160808440040040
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00209
   VCID: 73E45A17D26A8EDAB1-8026
   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1Z2 955 119 D  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 17081  26  0601 
   Coding: 00D7B7
   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1Z0 951 171 
   Component: Innenraumuebe  008 5101 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: 5J0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 5J0 919 475 A    HW: 5J0 919 475 A
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H11 0005  
   Revision: --H11---    Serial number: 32961224000475
   Coding: 10810F
   Shop #: WSC 13765 790 00209
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14SKxxx0000 001001
   ROD: EV_EPHVA14SKxxx0000.rod
   VCID: 33649A179AEACEDA71-8066
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 T    HW: 1K0 909 605 T
   Component: Q4 AIRBAG VW8   020 2300  
   Revision: 05020000    Serial number: 0038PD2XSPHP  
   Coding: 0020788
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00209
   VCID: 3D70BC2F64AE08AA97-8068
   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME703328688
   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME70402E133
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 521 AT    HW: 5K0 953 569 B
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   014 0140  
   Revision: FF010041    Serial number: 20120815800189
   Coding: 1892140000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00209
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS A01004
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS.rod
   VCID: 7EF27B23E128D3B2CE-802A
   Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3T0 959 537 A    HW: 3T0 959 537 A  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-URO  H07 0012 
   Coding: 830000
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 1Z0 920 943 TX    HW: 1Z0 920 943 TX
   Component: KOMBI         H04 0607  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 710A01
   Shop #: WSC 28059 210 91019
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04114
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW25.rod
   VCID: 224A6F53351057528A-8076
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 R    HW: 7N0 907 530 H
   Component: J533  Gateway H42 1632  
   Revision:   H42       Serial number: 160812F1000752
   Coding: 351303
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00209
   VCID: 3F8CC627AEA21ABA85-806A
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H04 0607  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6ADA47738DA04F1202-803E
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 37: Navigation (J794)       Labels: 1K0-035-27x-37.clb
   Part No SW: 3T0 035 192 G    HW: 3T0 035 192 G
   Component: RNS315-EU   H52 0319  
   Serial number: SKZAZ2M9285932
   Coding: 000004010401000000008002
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00209
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS 001705
   ROD: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS.rod
   VCID: 326A9F1365F0C7D27A-8066
   Data medium: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3AA 919 866 
   Component: EUR_W_0038  0038 
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 T    HW: 1T0 959 701 T
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2120  
   Coding: 0000756
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00209
   VCID: 489EDDFB3B6C5D0234-801C
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 P
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 74     3305  
   Revision: 00H22000    
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00209
   VCID: 377CAE07469222FA4D-8062
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 R    HW: 1T0 959 702 R
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2120  
   Coding: 0000756
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00209
   VCID: 479CDEC73672527A3D-8012
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 703 A    HW: 5K0 959 703 A
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 1012561
   VCID: 326A9F13ADF0C7D27A-8066
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 704 A    HW: 5K0 959 704 A
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 1012561
   VCID: 33649A1752EACEDA71-8066
No fault code found.
End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:14)--------------------------

 

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Also the sensor in question is 1K0 955 559 AH

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Ok Gone and checked the wiring again and everything looks fine so Pin 1 - Switched Fuse (Fuse 17) , Pin 2 - Ground and Pin 3 - CECM  White plug Pin 33 

 

Dont know where am going wrong? :crying:

Edited by singh946

Have you tried checking byte 21, bit 5 in the BCM?

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1 hour ago, langers2k said:

Have you tried checking byte 21, bit 5 in the BCM?

 

Ok finally got it working. So went back into the White plug and retapped the wire into pin 33 and making sure it was soldiered fine. Reconnected everything back and Cent Elect was showing the RLS in the dropdown. Went into the measuring window and block 015 and could see the RLS showing up but the values are 0.0 across the range. I didnt get much time to fiddle with the settings but do I need to set the auto wipers etc? I dont have the auto switch installed as yet but I was assuming by covering the sensor I would get somewhat reading in the sensor?

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Well just to keep things updated.

 

Finally finished the install and it works brilliantly. Rain closing and auto windscreen wipe etc. Just need to add a switch to add the auto lights. All readings are coming in fine in VCDS. 

 

While I was using testing the rain closing the following error was logged in VCDS

1 Fault Found:

00907 - Intervention load Management 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 236
                    Mileage: 69139 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2051.14.03
                    Time: 22:06:31

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 11.95 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF

From Ross tech seems  like a low voltage / faulty battery http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/00907

 

May be the battery was low on juice while I was finishing off the install and using the rain closing may have further drained the battery. I will drive around and see if the error goes. 

Sorry - I didn't get around to replying about coding.

 

Can you add an new autoscan so other people can use it as a reference?

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3 minutes ago, langers2k said:

Sorry - I didn't get around to replying about coding.

 

Can you add an new autoscan so other people can use it as a reference?

 

No worries @langers2k will do in evening

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