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I am re-importing my uk car from 3 years abroad. Paper work is crazy !! Nice to know they shut all dvla offices in that time :(

 

Anyway, it asks for engine number - not code.

 

on side of engine cover it has a large in bold series of LL0 000000. L = letter, 0 equals number. There is a longer number and bar code on second sticker down.

 

does anyone know what the dvla want for the engine number please?

 

i am stumped, any help greatly appreciated.

 

it at least now has an MOT and insurance :)

Handbook says the engine number is STAMPED on the engine block so you my need to clean the block a little to see it.

Do you still have the paper work from when you exported the car? Should be on there.

I'm not too sure it actually is anymore for all models / engine types.  Mine has the engine number on a sticker with barcode and serial on the upper camchain cover with a manufacture date (hardly permanent though). But I can't seem to locate it anywhere on the engine block. I'm not convinced they stamp them anymore.  VCDS returns no serial for my last two cars engine as well in a full scan.

 

Have you got the original UK registration? That would have an engine serial as declared at registration?

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Unfortunately, mine was won of the 2.0 tsi engine failures. It had a replacement unit installed in 2014 while I lived in Belgium. Did not have to declare that over there.

 

I have a picture of the side barcode and lots of numbers and dates as you mention. I have put the big numbers and letters in bold on form. Will call my local stealer to ask them.

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8 hours ago, TheClient said:

I'm not too sure it actually is anymore for all models / engine types.  Mine has the engine number on a sticker with barcode and serial on the upper camchain cover with a manufacture date (hardly permanent though). But I can't seem to locate it anywhere on the engine block. I'm not convinced they stamp them anymore.  VCDS returns no serial for my last two cars engine as well in a full scan.

 

Have you got the original UK registration? That would have an engine serial as declared at registration?

 

On that sticker which bit would you say was the engine number? On the top sticker there is a big bold number and letters.

Right ok, well there is a long discussion here somewhere that when Skoda do an engine replacement that it inherits the same engine number as the previous engine and they destroy the serial reference on the old one. Exactly how that works I do not know.

 

I am not in front of my car, I can look later but the engine type code is CCZA so I would say the serial is the numbers immediately following that. Let me check my v5C and the sticker later and see if it lines up.

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Thanks

3 hours ago, pmdc199 said:

 

On that sticker which bit would you say was the engine number? On the top sticker there is a big bold number and letters.

OK. On my car, same type as yours. The engine number declared on the v5c is the same as the full alpha numeric string shown on the bar code in the following format. CCZ 123456. 

 

Edit: Bizarrely to me, the serials are never returned on a full VCDS scan and it wasn't for my Mk5 Golf either. They are blank. Maybe they don't store the engine number in any systems or engine management system and it is literally a sticker bar code plate that skoda can re-apply in instances of engine failure as long as the old one is taken off the old engine.

 

Not sure how that would tie into manufacture date for recalls and engine revisions. You'd have engines that are much newer than their serials suggest. A shadow serial maybe used.....  

 

I am hypothesising of course, probably not that relevant to you, but interested to see if anyone chips in with a knowledge of the whole issue.

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Out of interest. When you check records, given you have had an engine replacement, is the engine number on your timing cover now, different to what it used to be on an old v5c before you exported the car? 

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Unfortunately, mine was won of the 2.0 tsi engine failures. It had a replacement unit installed in 2014 while I lived in Belgium. Did not have to declare that over there.

 

I have a picture of the side barcode and lots of numbers and dates as you mention. I have put the big numbers and letters in bold on form. Will call my local stealer to ask them.

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44 minutes ago, TheClient said:

Out of interest. When you check records, given you have had an engine replacement, is the engine number on your timing cover now, different to what it used to be on an old v5c before you exported the car? 

 

I don't have it I had to send to DVLA when it left UK. My code starts RR4, seems a bit strange.

Re Belgium & Engines replaced & like for like engine,  Belgium is in the EU and like the UK and even rest of the world engines need to be traceable, 

and they are world wide by VW Group and other engine manufacturers & remanufacturers, so records are kept and needed.

 

Always keep the Engine Records with a New / refurbished or a Salvage / Used engine.

A huge manufacturer like VW have that as do Skoda yet they tell owners the DVLA in the UK do not need informed, the replacement engine had the same numbers as the old engine, the dealership stamps them and other type lying guff.

 

If ever anyone has trouble finding an engine number or records of a change get from the Main Dealership that changed the engine. 

or the VW Group that supplied it if a VW Group engine, the EU requires them to have the records.

21 minutes ago, pmdc199 said:

 

I don't have it I had to send to DVLA when it left UK. My code starts RR4, seems a bit strange.

I think that is starting to make some sense in your circumstances. RR4 sounds like a replacement code doesn't it?   It is not a normal engine designation as used at the start of my declared engine number.

 

Normally, the engine number starts CCZ for EA888 TSI engines such as this in the EU, as that is the engine type. 

My timing cover only has the one sticker, with the engine number string and prod date and time and some other numbers and a bar code.  What is on your secondary label?

 

So, if it were me, I would call a skoda dealer (perhaps with whom you have a relationship or want a relationship),  and ask them can they look up the original engine number for the vehicle at birth. Then tell them your replacement saga and that you have a RR4 123456 code. What do they do when they replace engines such as this, do they see the same RR4 codes on their replacement engines. Do they notify the DVLA.   All the responses in the long thread I can recall reading were that skoda do not update DVLA, as the original serial number stands in place on the NEW engine!!!.

 

If you really don't care and just want to get something on the DVLA form and be done with it, put in the RR4 code with the numbers, it will look unusual to future purchasers but backed with documentation and the replacement engine makes sense.

 

 

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