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I've just watched a clip on You tube on driving a DSG car in very slow moving tail back traffic.  Recommendation was to allow a good gap to develop in front of your car and then drive forward to close the gap, instead of trickling along on tickover revs.  To save frying the clutches.  Apparently.

With the drivers I deal with every day this would be most unwise. They would get very pi$$ed off. And offer advice.

Most (probably all) tail back trickle along situations where I live move gently along with my foot fully off the brake pedal  and fully off the accelerator with occasional full stops.

I assume this ability to creep along with clutches fully engaged on tickover revs is by design and not by accident. I like it a lot. 

I cannot believe VW would design a box that would fry the clutch in such a common widespread situation as a tickover revs trickle along.  Or what do you all know better than me.?  Please.

Was the Youtube Video clip about Generic Twin Dry Clutch Automated Manual Gearboxes or Specifically about DQ200 7 Speed Twin Dry Clutch VW Group boxes.

 

Was it specifically about using in UK driving situations and weathers or was a from North America / USA?

 

Maybe just drive your car as is, and if your Clutch Packs fry be sure it is during the 3 years Manufacturers warranty, i doubt they will though, unless faulty, 

they are designed for use in lower to mid powered city  / family cars after all.

Leave too big a gap and some cheeky chancer will nip in. General rule i use in slow traffic, always leave enough room so you can easily see the rear tyres of the car in front, and have enough room in a jam to turn round and go the other way. 

Edited by Kobayashi

That's how I normally try to drive in slow queues of moving traffic (up to 3rd gear at idle with a manual box).

If it's a long tail back with lots of creeping, I go to manual and leave it in 1st gear. 1st gear kinda stops the clutch slipping once above 4mph or thereabouts. It's a very very low gear and is designed for just this type of situation. What you don't want is to be creeping along in second gear which continues to slip unless you are doing over 8mph (or thereabouts). And as you guys with dsg's know, these boxes swap to 2nd gear almost straight away even in traffic. That's going to heat up your clutch too much in long tailbacks. 

Crawling in traffic is just the right time to go to 'S',  just do not go flooring the accelerator.

It gives you a 1'st gear that is not trying to go to 2nd, and if you go to 2nd a nice gear to just creep along in without trying to go to 3rd.

then back and up and down.

And for those with diesels, the anti-stall will accelerate you whether you want to or not!

?

What with a Mk3 Fabia TSI / TDI DSG?     Never felt experienced that!

On 07/08/2017 at 09:39, Awayoffski said:

Crawling in traffic is just the right time to go to 'S',  just do not go flooring the accelerator.

It gives you a 1'st gear that is not trying to go to 2nd, and if you go to 2nd a nice gear to just creep along in without trying to go to 3rd.

then back and up and down.

 

On the 110TSI DSG's 'S' won't hold 1st gear barely any longer than in 'D'. The best way seems to be to select manual and hold first gear which is happy to creep along upto 7mph or thereabouts without excessive revs. Of course it may be that we all have different idea's of what 'creeping' actually is and there are differing circumstances and driving conditions, speeds for different traffic conditions encountered. 2nd gear doesn't fully engage until around 8mph so you need to be moving at 9-10mph at least for 2nd gear to be using the clutch properly. Anything else on these 110 engines heats the clutches up.

23 hours ago, punyXpress said:

And for those with diesels, the anti-stall will accelerate you whether you want to or not!

 

Never experienced this on any of those engines with dsg's. 

Really, is that on both of the cars you have had?  

Have you ever had the 'Overheating' warning with a DSG?  (Cog symbol.)

 

The thing is there are options with a DQ200 DSG, you try what you want when the situation suits and see what works best.

 

EDIT, 

sorry that was a reply about 'Overheating' and using 'S'.

Not regarding the 'Anti Stall' which is not an issue with a DSG since the set up is nothing like with the manuals which have 'Anti Stall'.

 

PS

DQ200 are used in VW Group vehicles around the world, 

in extremes of climate / temperatures / humidity, and altitudes and then in cities where there might be gridlock traffic and many miles / km of crawling required.

UK users might never experience in their travels on British Highways anything like what the DSG's were designed to cope with.

(well should if VW Group never messed up quite so often....)

Edited by Awayoffski

No, not ever had the dsg overheat warning. Totally agree about trying different ways for different situations, that's the only way. In my home town we get lots of long queues of very slow traffic at peak times. 2nd is too high a gear for my situations as I can't get the speed up enough to let 2nd gear fully engage. 'S' doesn't cope well either making virtually no difference. So manual it is.

Awayoffski, just noticed you are Skodaless! Wow! Shock horror and stuff!! :blink: What you gonna do regarding Skoda then? Will you come back? 

 

Sorry to OP, this is a bit off topic. 

There is a software update for the DSG to avoid overheating. Its not a recall so you have to contact your dealer and ask for it. They did it to my wifes Fabia 

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