Apparently in a certain universe it’s possible to sell cars at a full price;

http://goautomedia.cdn.on.net/gan_premium/GoAutoNews_Premium_Newsletter_081.pdf#page6

They sell them at Full Price in the UK to VW.

VW / Skoda / Audi /SEAT lease you a car, or you buy on the never never with the intention to hand back before having to pay the final instalments and own the car.

So VW sell to VW via VW Finance at RRP, and the person getting the car gets a 'Dealers Contribution' & a 'Manufacturers Contribution',  and 

VW Group have sold the car to themselves and will get 'Rent Money' for it, and will get the vehicle back in their keeping later on.

Pyramid selling from financing of money VW borrowed in the first place.

'Das Auto'.

 

BCA (British Car Auctions) will even lend money (Cheap Finance) to Car Dealerships & Traders to buy these used cars when they go to auction, 

so that the Dealerships can then arrange Leasing or buying used cars on the Never Never.

Edited 16 November, 20178 yr by Headinawayoffski

.........ah well there go the brokers, I guess.

No Brokers get cars cheap to lease, and they go on the used market later.

Some Broker Supplied cars are already sold used on return before the first registered keeper gets them. 

1 minute ago, Headinawayoffski said:

No Brokers get cars cheap to lease, and they go on the used market later.

Some Broker Supplied cars are already sold used on return before the first registered keeper gets them. 

In my next life George I intend to understand what you just said.

49 minutes ago, Ryeman said:

Apparently in a certain universe it’s possible to sell cars at a full price;

http://goautomedia.cdn.on.net/gan_premium/GoAutoNews_Premium_Newsletter_081.pdf#page6

 

When the price is a reasonable one in the first place.

 

I have never paid anything like full price for a Skoda, always expect 15 to 20% off to bring it back to what it is really worth.

 

Dacia sell at virtually RRP but then their cars are priced right in the first place compared to the industry norm to set and price at 20 to 30% what it should be and hope some mug will pay it.

 

And hence Dacia has replaced Skoda as the value car brand in the UK and most of Europe and much of the world (North America not included as Renault-Dacia is not that daft to sell there in the past decades).

 

Dacia has 3 or 4 month waiting list whilst most other car makers have tens of thousands of cars in stock that their are panicking to get rid of.

 

My next car for the fleet.......  £11k,  sat nav, rear camera, DAB radio, everything a boy needs.   

 

 

 

Edited 16 November, 20178 yr by lol-lol

I wonder how much he got paid for the brilliant idea lol.        The work of a genius alright.

This mob would probably get away with it -

http://europe.autonews.com/article/20171116/ANE/171119824/racecar-specialist-dallaras-stradale-inspired-by-lotus?cciid=email-autonews-blast

Ryeman.

Simples, some Lease Companies / Brokers borrow money to purchase the vehicle they will lease, and they arrange the buyer of the 2 or 3 year old car before even buying it.  So they get cheap credit, purchase the vehicle at very good prices from the Manufacturers, boosting their First Registrations, 

they the Lease Company collect 2 years money & the vehicle on return goes to that person that Financed it in the first place.

Win Win Win all round. Then the Used Car still makes money for the person selling, BCA or Main Dealers or Independents.

Likely only the UK Treasury and the Public lose out on Taxes.

http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-39642342 

 

Europes biggest Independent Dealerships started in Scotland but whos Founder died recently maybe knows all about financing and leasing and selling used, discounting, pile them high and sell them cheapish and keep the money going around.

Edited 16 November, 20178 yr by Headinawayoffski

3 minutes ago, Headinawayoffski said:

Ryeman.

Simples, some Lease Companies / Brokers borrow money to purchase the vehicle they will lease, and they arrange the buyer of the 2 or 3 year old car before even buying it.  So they get cheap credit, purchase the vehicle at very good prices from the Manufacturers, boosting their First Registrations, 

they the Lease Company collect 2 years money & the vehicle on return goes to that person that Financed it in the first place.

Win Win Win all round. Then the Used Car still makes money for the person selling, BCA or Main Dealers or Independents.

Likely only the UK Treasury and the Public lose out on Taxes.

To me, it sounds like funny money George.......quite beyond my simple brain.

Funny Money, thats how you get to be the biggest car manufacturer in the world then it all goes wrong in 2015, and somehow you can bounce back.

 

EV's will catch on if the Governments spend on the Infrastructure, and the banks back the finance not just of cars but factories etc.

ie Dyson EV's.

http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-39642342 

 

Bit of a crash coming on all those Dirty Diesels that the Banks have a financial interest in and are not worth what they show they are worth on Stock Lists or Balance Sheets.

 

Aberdeen Toyota becomes Scotland's first hydrogen specialist service centre.mhtml

Fitted with 'Winter Tyres' before delivery..

Electric Cars _ Arnold Clark.mhtml

Edited 16 November, 20178 yr by Headinawayoffski

On 11/16/2017 at 10:54, Headinawayoffski said:

 

Bit of a crash coming on all those Dirty Diesels that the Banks have a financial interest in and are not worth what they show they are worth on Stock Lists or Balance Sheets.

 

 

Not expecting any saving to be passed on to the consumer. Moire likely banks will scream and we'll all pay them for the privilege of being stiffed  by them yet again.

 

£26k for a used Octavia in Dundee. When was Skoda ever a value brand? I can't remember.

Same price bracket as a 320d Xdrive on the same 17 plate.

I  was there last week looking around at those motors that sit with crazy asking prices, back tomorrow to look some more.

On ‎16‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 10:23, Headinawayoffski said:

They sell them at Full Price in the UK to VW.

VW / Skoda / Audi /SEAT lease you a car, or you buy on the never never with the intention to hand back before having to pay the final instalments and own the car.

So VW sell to VW via VW Finance at RRP, and the person getting the car gets a 'Dealers Contribution' & a 'Manufacturers Contribution',  and 

VW Group have sold the car to themselves and will get 'Rent Money' for it, and will get the vehicle back in their keeping later on.

Pyramid selling from financing of money VW borrowed in the first place.

'Das Auto'.

 

BCA (British Car Auctions) will even lend money (Cheap Finance) to Car Dealerships & Traders to buy these used cars when they go to auction, 

so that the Dealerships can then arrange Leasing or buying used cars on the Never Never.

Other manufacturers are available and fund such purchasing packages I'm sure.

Loads of them, Vauxhall, Ford, Fiat etc, just they were not caught out on an emissions scandal & tell all how sales are rising not dropping while they sell them to themselves, and get them back and out as used.

 

VW Group might have some new diesels not yet first registered in the UK or even yet in the UK but UK spec that need registered before April 2018...

Bargains coming do you think?

Nearly three million diesel car drivers hit by new 'green' taxes.mhtml

Edited 22 November, 20178 yr by Headinawayoffski