15 minutes ago, AwaoffSki said:

It is the removing hot oil point of view.  The point of view of 'Do you want an engine flush',  or fill with cheaper oil and flush, or just remove the hot oil you already have in rather than cooler oil you have in.

 

I was changing oil about as long as you then, Karts, Bikes, Scrappers, good cars and crap cars.

Engines changed, oil & filters changed.

 

My father used to change the oil every 3,000 miles in a diesel and 6,000 in a petrol, and service a car before going from the North East to Edinburgh while having to take a Ferry or drive the longer way.

 

Wet Clutch DSG Oil changes are fine at 40,000 miles.

Ok thanks, I’ll just leave it to 40k then. Yes we used to change the oil far more often in the “good old days” but I presume (hope!) that oil technology has improved quite a bit since then!

We have a canal boat with diesel engine, that has an oil change every 250hrs but has a great built-in oil drain pump, effectively a pipe fitting in place of a sump plug that is piped round to a manual pump on the side of the engine. So not only do you pump the oil out into a container, the pump inlet is right at the lowest point.

We had offroad bikes & Karts that we rebuilt the engines after 3 meetings.  Some still do.

 

Some Land Rovers still self Oil change if you keep topping up the oil.

Oddly VW designed and built a similar engine for Euro 4 then again with Euro 5 Emissions.

http://www.revotechnik.com/support/technical/14tsi-twincharger-engine-issues 

 

Edited 28 November, 20178 yr by AwaoffSki

45 minutes ago, AwaoffSki said:

We had offroad bikes & Karts that we rebuilt the engines after 3 meetings.  Some still do.

 

Some Land Rovers still self Oil change if you keep topping up the oil.

Oddly VW designed and built a similar engine for Euro 4 then again with Euro 5 Emissions.

http://www.revotechnik.com/support/technical/14tsi-twincharger-engine-issues 

 

Haha well I did notice that the VW blurb on oil quality measurement mentioned the oil level sensor as well as the oil temperature sensor. Presumably if you have to keep topping up the oil it notices that and extends the oil change interval! My TSI does use some oil, it’s gone from full to about 1/4 way up the normal dipstick range in about 8000 miles. Which I suppose is not bad, but my 2 Subarus never used any oil between changes even when they had 100k+ on them.

I have read through this and am completely confused by this plus by my dealer!

 

My car is now 1 year old and was put on a variable service plan from new as I do 15K per year, mostly on motorways.  A few weeks ago - after 14k miles the car was saying that the oil service was due in 4k miles but as it was the first oil change and I think 18k was slightly too muchfor the first change I had this done at 14k. All fine but on collection my cars says next oil service is due in 10k (inspection in 20k). I have queried this with the dealer and they have said that as I pre-paid for the first 2 services (£279 from the brochure) that I am not allowed to be on a variable service plan. Is this right??

20 hours ago, Speedman said:

I have read through this and am completely confused by this plus by my dealer!

 

My car is now 1 year old and was put on a variable service plan from new as I do 15K per year, mostly on motorways.  A few weeks ago - after 14k miles the car was saying that the oil service was due in 4k miles but as it was the first oil change and I think 18k was slightly too muchfor the first change I had this done at 14k. All fine but on collection my cars says next oil service is due in 10k (inspection in 20k). I have queried this with the dealer and they have said that as I pre-paid for the first 2 services (£279 from the brochure) that I am not allowed to be on a variable service plan. Is this right??

Yes I think this is probably right simply because if you read the small print for the servicing deal it talks about fixed interval servicing only. It does seem very odd that Skoda ship cars from the factory with longlife oil and variable service interval and as soon as any UK dealer gets their sticky paws on a car it is set back to fixed interval.

 

That said and having listened to all the evidence on here, I think it is sensible to change the oil every 10k or less if you want the car to last and be trouble free. It really is a very small cost compared to the cost of a car or a replacement engine. After you have the next service you can decide whether you want to put it back onto flexible or not (you will need to be sure they put in long life oil) but personally I’d stick to 10k, or if you do go with variable, do your own intermediate oil change. It’s pretty easy!

You've been lucky, since you purchased the service plan the dealer should have reset the service interval from variable (out of the factory) to fixed before you first collected the car.

 

A 2-service plan would ordinarily cover 20,000 miles / 2 years (1 year / 10,000 miles per service, whichever is reached first) but you've had 14,000 miles before the first service. 

Yes, sounds like I have been lucky - I queried with the Skoda UK and they said the dealer is right - should have been on a fixed service plan from day 1.  How can they make servicing so confusing! Car is due another oil change in 9000 miles now. The one after this the 'inspection' sounds to me like a minor check but I  understand this is actually the main service.