Anyone shod their Yeti with Kleber Quadraxer 2?

 

Michelin Cross Climates seem to have some fans, and being as Kleber is Michelin, and the Quadraxer 2 looks like a Cross Climate, and they both have identical fuel, wet grip and noise ratings, I was surprised when I searched for "Kleber" and got zilch.  Plus the Klebers are £90-ish whereas the Michelins are £135-ish.

 

I've bought a set of 16" steel wheels with GT Radial Winterpros on them and have stuck them on and it's bliss - no more bangs and crunches from the 17" alloy things with ridiculous low profile, minimal sidewall tyres (ridiculous for me anyway).

 

So being as I'll "briskly" wear out the GT Radials I'm musing on what I put on them next using the proceeds of the 17" dolomites when I've flogged them.

 

Comments anyone?  I'm sure I'll get some!

 

 

 

Kleber Quadraxer 2 215/60 R16

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Welcome to the 16" club! A band of few, a very few, comfort driven owners.

Happy to oblige: 

 

At     https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/250093-kleber-quadraxer/?do=findComment&comment=4950374   

October 2017 

 

....I fitted 3-Peak-and-Snowflake Quads to my 2012 Yeti 2.0Tdi 140 4x4 DSG in August 2014, as welcome replacements for the short-lived OEM Conti's.  They are 215/60/R16's, supplied by Mytyres and fitted by a local indie.  They did nearly 22,000 miles on the Yeti 4x4 before the non-standard 16" wheels were transferred on to its successor, a 1.2 Tsi 2WD in March this year (2017).  During this summer, another 4,700 miles have been added, giving a total mileage of c26,700 to date.  The remaining tread is typically >5mm centre and >4mm shoulders.  They've worked hard on a fairly even mix of local (and more distant) potholed lanes and on rather better A+M roads.  Sadly (!), they've never met snow but anything else they have so far dealt with faultlessly. 

 

At the present rate, they might be fit for replacement about this time next year.  The present set cost ~£480, fitted; Google shows a replacement cost of ~£420 for the Quadraxer 2, as compared with ~£540 for the 'equivalent' Michelin Cross Climate.  Worth considering.   

 

And here on 31 December:  

 

...I subscribe to the 'Depends on the tyres' theory.  It would have been silly for me to go out in the recent local 6" of snow just for the sake of it, but my 2WD Yeti competently dealt with the black ice and frozen ruts a couple of days later.  Three-peak-and-snowflake all-seasons, all round .

Do a search here too https://www.briskoda.net/search/#gsc.tab=0  - there are quite a few comments.  As things stand at present, I'll be refitting Quadraxers when the time comes. 

Edited 14 January, 20188 yr by Brijo
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35 minutes ago, Brijo said:

Happy to oblige: 

 

Thank you.  Poor searching on my part obviously.

 

Good!  The wheels were second hand off eBay so only half the tyres to wear out.  I'll go to it forthwith.

 

(I have a set of 8V integrale wheels with Kleber M+S from the late 80's I guess.  Ex Walter Röhrl I was given to understand off his personal Lancia.  When I had the car to use them they rivalled the "normal" Yokohamas I had on it.  So I'm a bit of a fan already!)

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Expatman said:

Welcome to the 16" club! A band of few, a very few, comfort driven owners.

 

 Any way of getting 15" on there or do the calipers prevent it?  With lovely bouncy 215/60 R15's!!!

 

26 minutes ago, aka_pseudonym said:

 

 Any way of getting 15" on there or do the calipers prevent it?  With lovely bouncy 215/60 R15's!!!

 

 

15" wheels have never been approved for fitment on a Yeti.

4 minutes ago, Llanigraham said:

 

15" wheels have never been approved for fitment on a Yeti.

 

Ah yes indeed.

 

But my car is seven years old now - as just as, at a certain point in their lives, most cars stop going to dealers to be serviced and start going to the local oily chap, so surely things which aren't "approved" can suddenly be contemplated?  Racing stripes, 500 watt stereos, trumpets on the exhaust pipes - that sort of stuff.

 

So, being counter-revolutionary, and not wishing to lower it and put on 18" wheels with 2" sidewalls, my choice would simply be to put smaller wheels on it with bigger tyres.  (And forego the stripes, stereos, trumpets etc.)

 

 

 

I think you have misunderstood.

All cars are Type Approved with certain fitments, and the Yeti has only been Type Approved with 16" or 17" wheels. It doesn't matter how old the car is.
If you did fit them it could result in prosecution and is more than likely to invalidate your insurance, unless you get written authority from your Insurance Company confirming the non-approved fitment.

 

And looking at the data elsewhere here, no they wouldn't fit.

2 minutes ago, Llanigraham said:

I think you have misunderstood.

All cars are Type Approved with certain fitments, and the Yeti has only been Type Approved with 16" or 17" wheels. It doesn't matter how old the car is.
If you did fit them it could result in prosecution and is more than likely to invalidate your insurance, unless you get written authority from your Insurance Company confirming the non-approved fitment.

 

And looking at the data elsewhere here, no they wouldn't fit.

 

Ah well.  End of dreaming then!   Especially as they wouldn't fit.

 

But I've just looked up "Type Approval" in Wikipedia as it's new to me - although it seems it's about ten years since it came in for the EU.  So thank you for increasing my knowledge even if it's a depressingly uncreative dictum.  My first "experiment" was a Sunbeam Rapier engine in a Commer Cob van in the late 60's - went like the clappers until it rusted to bits.  Shame such pleasures are no longer possible.

 

(Wasn't really "like the clappers" as apparently the Sunbeam Rapier MkIII had a 0-60 time of 18secs!  Did do quite well in the Monte one year though.)

 

 

 

 

Some independent test results of Kleber Quadraxers here: http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Kleber/Quadraxer.htm

 

In three independent tests, they were placed 7th (out of 10), 7th (out of 10), and 8th (out of 9).

Most of the negatives relate to poor braking performance.

 

 

9 hours ago, aka_pseudonym said:

 

 Any way of getting 15" on there or do the calipers prevent it?  With lovely bouncy 215/60 R15's!!!

 

The 16" wheels will be fitted with either 215 x 60 R16 tyres or 225 x 60 R16 tyres (both type approved) so you will have the extra sidewall depth to provide the smoother ride while the speedometer etc. will still be accurate.

2 hours ago, muddyboots said:

Some independent test results of Kleber Quadraxers here: http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Kleber/Quadraxer.htm

 

In three independent tests, they were placed 7th (out of 10), 7th (out of 10), and 8th (out of 9).

Most of the negatives relate to poor braking performance.

A couple of points (well, maybe three): 

Without questioning the results, I note that these were for the 'original' Quads, not the current Quad 2's. 

The users'  reviews are worth reading, and 87% are reported as saying they 'would buy again'

You makes your choice and you pays your money!  YMMV

On 15/01/2018 at 07:47, muddyboots said:

Some independent test results of Kleber Quadraxers here: http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Kleber/Quadraxer.htm

 

In three independent tests, they were placed 7th (out of 10), 7th (out of 10), and 8th (out of 9).

Most of the negatives relate to poor braking performance.

 

 

 

Hello all. I think those tests are for the original Quadraxer, rather than the '2', and I had a set of the originals on a FWD car (Alfa 147) back in 2010. They were excellent in cold, snow and even ice, but not so good once it warmed up beyond 12C thereabouts (squirmy feel due to the tread blocks moving around excessively). They may have improved the all-season aspect with the '2'. As for wet grip the '2' is B-rated so should be pretty good. Worth a try if they're a good price compared to Mich Crossclimates or Goodyear 4season for example, but I'd watch out for performance and wear once it starts to warm up through the spring.