Having a new turbo fitted , I asked for the old one back. Garage said no as it is an exchange item. I told them I did not want a 2nd. hand one at £1300 ? They said it will probably be a new one?? Probably???WTF?

they said you will get a warranty . I said I should bloody well expect one as well> No idea how long for ?

The other one went at 39,000 miles?? Car 5.5 yrs old and serviced yearly either when we had a local Skoda garage and then at a reputable local garage?

It was making a rattle which you could hear either by being under it on a ramp or sticking your head under the bonnet well down. Not driving?

It was first thought to be a timing chain rattle. As not noise or smoking could I have driven it for a few hundred miles before it became a problem. Total bill will be around £1800.00 Is that about right. No help from SUK.??

Petrol vRS? 2012? Those prices seem about right for a new genuine replacement turbo. I would expect a bit cheaper if exchange. And yes, what warranty and what terms.

 

Apart fron rattle, is there an issue with existing turbo? 

Can you get a recording of the sound?

 

I had a rattle, the actuator had come loose. Was quoted £1600 for a genuine VAG turbo replacement. Went to a well regarded turbo specialist near Birmingham and they fixed the issue and forged the new parts, new oil and a complete check over of the turbo incase there were any other issues and it came to £540 all in.

Ps. I think genuine dealer prices include a 2 year warranty on new OEM components. So. If your repairer is charging those prices and doesn't offer that you may as well ask a dealer to diagnose and change the turbo....

I had an issue on my old 2.0tdi, the issue was thought to be a turbo (turned out it wasn't).  The garage had my original refurbished and it didn't feel right from the day it was fitted. It had new internals, was shot blasted and the actuator was painted.  I wasn't happy with it.  Eventually a brand new genuine one was fitted.

You need to find out who is supplying  the new turbo if its from TPS its genuine parts, if not they will probably get a cheap recon one and charge you genuine prices i always try to get all my own parts from TPS for piece of mind. I see you live in hampshire JKM in portsmouth are a VAG specialist/tuner get a quote from them unless its to late ,

For example, my old pd170 vrs needed a new turbo, on ebay various sellers had recon turbos for £250 +exchange  or TPS had a genuine one for £700 ish these are the figures i would expect to pay for a turbo not £1000+  .

The turbo I was quoted for was from TPS and was around £800-£850 but with the two pipes needed, the oil and labour then VAT added it took it up to £1600 all in. It wasn't just £1600 for the turbo in my experience.

 

Also to note, the turbo specialists I used do offer a 2 year warranty and are extremely professional and are very good at what they do. These are their links, I see you are far away from them but if you can find anything similar it is worth a look, these guys offer a free full turbo inspection and do not charge if they cannot repair. Sounds too good to be true but they truly are that good.

 

https://www.bestturbos.uk/

https://www.facebook.com/bestturbos/

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=best+tuebos&oq=best+tuebos&aqs=chrome..69i57.2060j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

https://www.yell.com/biz/best-turbos-oldbury-8082644/

 

3 hours ago, HarleQuinn said:

The turbo I was quoted for was from TPS and was around £800-£850 but with the two pipes needed, the oil and labour then VAT added it took it up to £1600 all in. It wasn't just £1600 for the turbo in my experience.

 

Also to note, the turbo specialists I used do offer a 2 year warranty and are extremely professional and are very good at what they do. These are their links, I see you are far away from them but if you can find anything similar it is worth a look, these guys offer a free full turbo inspection and do not charge if they cannot repair. Sounds too good to be true but they truly are that good.

 

https://www.bestturbos.uk/

https://www.facebook.com/bestturbos/

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=best+tuebos&oq=best+tuebos&aqs=chrome..69i57.2060j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

https://www.yell.com/biz/best-turbos-oldbury-8082644/

 

 

 

Iv just messegd these guys regarding my knackard ppd tdi turbo so it’s nice to no they have a fan on hear already 

33 minutes ago, bradh said:

 

 

Iv just messegd these guys regarding my knackard ppd tdi turbo so it’s nice to no they have a fan on hear already 

 

They are brilliant, honestly they will be great for you!

Got an exchanged turbo unit when I bout my 2nd octivia. Didn't have any problems with it at all. It was a reconed unit.
If I remember rightly its bout £290 ish from euro car parts.

Just because something is an exchange item doesn't means its a refurbished item you are getting in return.

 

Dealers do it with all sorts like water pumps, alternators and starters and probably turbos as well.

It just goes to show you don,t need to spend ££££ on a turbo if you use a reliable turbo specialist who do a good rebuild/refurb job on an old unit lots on ebay its just knowing whos good and who,s not . 

On 24/02/2018 at 09:34, willy0329 said:

You need to find out who is supplying  the new turbo if its from TPS its genuine parts, if not they will probably get a cheap recon one and charge you genuine prices i always try to get all my own parts from TPS for piece of mind. I see you live in hampshire JKM in portsmouth are a VAG specialist/tuner get a quote from them unless its to late ,

For example, my old pd170 vrs needed a new turbo, on ebay various sellers had recon turbos for £250 +exchange  or TPS had a genuine one for £700 ish these are the figures i would expect to pay for a turbo not £1000+  .

 

It depends on the actual turbo you are buying, for the model required and as stated by other posters, the ancilliary items like oil feed and return lines and then fitting cost and then the things you need to do at the same time, oil and filter change etc etc.  Also, it should go without saying cleanliness, attention to detail, cleaning boost pipes, intercooler on a failed turbo essential.

 

11 hours ago, willy0329 said:

It just goes to show you don,t need to spend ££££ on a turbo if you use a reliable turbo specialist who do a good rebuild/refurb job on an old unit lots on ebay its just knowing whos good and who,s not . 

 

Agree. It is all about a reputable and experienced specialist. Knowing where to source parts or rebuild parts from and what can be rebuilt reliably and what can't. The IHI turbo is not a great rebuild proposition as I understand it. But it generally fails most often on silly weak spotslike the wastegate / actuator mechanism... Vband clip (not available as a port from VAG) etc..

Edited 25 February, 20188 yr by TheClient

I've bitten the bullet and gone with this garage. I know the owner fairly well. Having done some  gardening over the last 2 years.

I challenged them about a warranty. They said it came from the supplier. I said what happens if you go bust I'm left in the soft and smelly?

They promised to get one I think its for 1 year. I think the new one came from TPS but will find that out next week.

The turbo came with a manifold. The bill was £1700. 

In hind sight I feel I should have run it for a few more months, as apart from  a rattle there was no smoke or anything untoward happening.

One gem that came from the garage was if you have been doing motorway driving at highish speeds then let the engine run when you park for a minute or two before you switch off??

I put this question on here before but where  a similar question had been placed with no replies ? So put a straight query to get these replies.

 

Thanks guys for your help much appreciated and will keep on the garages ass for answers to various querys

From my understanding giving the engine 10-30 seconds when starting before you move off is beneficial, as is giving it 10-30 seconds after parking before you switch off. Gives the oil time to pump and then settle respectively.

I always like to have a small amount of delay before driving off, just 15sec or 30 seconds. Lots of people will say not required and that is ok and each to own opinions.  But what is more important, and more beneficial, is not driving the car hard until warmed up (oil temp at least >70+C) and that can be quite a while after the coolant temp gauge has started to move.

 

As for Idle cool down. It is a good process to follow if coming off high speed / high engine revs driving. Like coming straight off motorway to services or if your home or work is straight off an A Road or Motorway exit slip road.  If you include suburban driving, before parking and switch off it is not really necessary, which means for a lot of people it is not really an issue.

 

When you switch off the engine the oil stops circulating in the turbo and the turbo will be very very very hot, It has a lot of stored heat that needs to be dissipated.  Turning engine off Immediately leaves stationary oil inside the turbo and feed and return lines and in such a high temperature unit can cause issues with cooking the oil / oil residue as well as rapid temperature change in the oil from turning off engine.

 

All that said, these precautions have been recommendations for decades, even though modern engines tend to have a auxilliary coolant circulation pump to turbo after switch off, but it is no substitute.  These precautions are more about internal turbo bearing / journal life which would result in oil usage and premature turbo failure,  and may well not relate to the noise you were experiencing, which could be more a pure mechanical problem with the turbo other parts... Like wastegate mechanism or even dare I say it, an external part heat shield etc?  It is hard without having heard the noise, inspected the car and performed diagnosis..

 

 Did you get them to look at the turbo removed to prove the fault? 

 

If it was a genuine new TPS supplied turbo they don't require the turbo returned for exchange AFAIR.  Hope you are all sorted now anyway. Having a garage (and technicians) you trust is half the battle.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 28 February, 20188 yr by TheClient

On 22/02/2018 at 22:08, HarleQuinn said:

Can you get a recording of the sound?

 

I had a rattle, the actuator had come loose. Was quoted £1600 for a genuine VAG turbo replacement. Went to a well regarded turbo specialist near Birmingham and they fixed the issue and forged the new parts, new oil and a complete check over of the turbo incase there were any other issues and it came to £540 all in.

It was a slight rattle  and could only be heard from underneath and if you stuck your head deep under the bonnet. I have had it back a week now and everything seems OK 

 Thanks Guys for all your help guys with this problem.

Just as an aside, as i had spoken to VAG about this and with my VW and Skoda history I was chancing my arm asking for a bit of help with the bill?

They told me I had been allocated a Case Manager?? Woo Hoo? Supposed to contact me in 48 hrs. as it was 56 hours they put me through to her. I asked what happened to the  49 hrs? Got loads of bull **** back/

I told her that you can tell any one else in Skoda who may be remotley interested that the next car I get If i live long enough (76 now) will not be a Skoda, that shut her up and I put the phone down??