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Can the TPMS be disabled? I’m guessing the answer is no but thought I would check.

Out of interest, why would you want to disable a safety feature?

Probably because it’s bloody annoying.

 

But no, you can’t without some serious re-coding - it’s a legal requirement now. 

^^^ Is your faulty as well?  Or why is it annoying?

 

Legal requirement for Manufacturers to fit as standard is it, who checks they function?

 

 

Where there is a will there will be a way, but the question must be 'why?'

 

If not working properly best find the reason for the fault.

If set and working and no pressure loss you should not be bothered by Warnings of a deflating tyre.

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1 hour ago, match14 said:

Can the TPMS be disabled? I’m guessing the answer is no but thought I would check.

 

Yes it can be disabled with VCDS

 

6 minutes ago, MorrisOx said:

Probably because it’s bloody annoying.

 

But no, you can’t without some serious re-coding - it’s a legal requirement now. 

 

Not serious coding at all.

 

If it is annoying then you would be better in sorting the issue that is making it annoying (a bad ABS sensor or iffy tyre)

6 minutes ago, AwaoffSki said:

Legal requirement for Manufacturers to fit as standard is it, who checks they function?

 

 

Where there is a will there will be a way, but the question must be 'why?'

 

If not working properly best find the reason for the fault.

If set and working and no pressure loss you should not be bothered by Warnings of a deflating tyre.

 

^^^^ this.

It’s an unsophisticated ABS sensor rotational system and just isn’t that clever. Direct pressure monitors which take a measurement from the valve are more accurate and less prone to errors.

 

I had a fault with mine in the first three months of Octy ownership, and then again twice towards the end of last year. Had to be reset by the dealer on each occasion.

1 minute ago, Gizmo said:

 

Yes it can be disabled with VCDS

 

 

Not serious coding at all.

 

If it is annoying then you would be better in sorting the issue that is making it annoying (a bad ABS sensor or iffy tyre)

 

^^^^ this.

 

Anything which involves VCDS is serious coding for your average punter (like me).

If your TPMS has a dodgy sensor then best consider what else can be wrong, repair then code out surely.  or even Shirley.

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28 minutes ago, john999boy said:

Out of interest, why would you want to disable a safety feature?

Because it keeps going off with nothing wrong.

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28 minutes ago, AwaoffSki said:

^^^ Is your faulty as well?  Or why is it annoying?

 

Legal requirement for Manufacturers to fit as standard is it, who checks they function?

 

 

Where there is a will there will be a way, but the question must be 'why?'

 

If not working properly best find the reason for the fault.

If set and working and no pressure loss you should not be bothered by Warnings of a deflating tyre.

Keeps warning me regularly every month and there is no loss of pressure, dealer finds nothing wrong with system.

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18 minutes ago, MorrisOx said:

It’s an unsophisticated ABS sensor rotational system and just isn’t that clever. Direct pressure monitors which take a measurement from the valve are more accurate and less prone to errors.

 

I had a fault with mine in the first three months of Octy ownership, and then again twice towards the end of last year. Had to be reset by the dealer on each occasion.

Yip same here and is actually being to become an annoyance with another wise great car.

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Dealership needs 'try harder'  get in people that can figure it out, keep the car, give you a courtesy car all at SKODA's expense.

 

Not rocket science, just the System Skoda fit and the Factory Trained Technicians are supposed to be familiar with.

Considering the TPMS only uses the ABS sensors it has to be asked if there is a fault in the ‘TPMS system' then surely there will be an issue with the ABS.

I've found in the past that it'll keep going off if the system is not well calibrated. I found the best way to calibrate is to do it at a high speed for 20-30 minutes as the faster the wheel is spinning (more rotations) the more accurate the measurements. The best way for it to work for me was to pull in to a motorway services, turn the car off and start the calibration procedure immediately before getting back on the motorway. Trying to calibrate the system in stop start traffic always had the warning come back up again after a few days for me.

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I’ll give that a try.

& have a good tyre pressure gauge and do not only set your tyres cold / outside and reset the TPMS.

If there is a warning ASAP check the 4 tyres are at the set pressures, and that it is no a tyre overheating and expanding more than the others setting off the TPMS.

 

A £1.99 Digital Fridge Thermometer is dead handy for checking tyre temps when checking tyres pressures.

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The newer ABS based TPMS on the MQB platform cars can take up to 1hr of driving time to calibrate...

 

This is because the sensors also measure the side to side vibrations (harmonics) of the wheel as it travels over different road surfaces & corners etc....way more advanced than previous ABS systems..

 

So even if you remove a wheel & refit it ...it will still need calibrating again..UNLESS you refit the wheel EXACTLY in the same position/same bolts holes etc..

^^^ Really?

Please link the Technical Manual on that. 

44 minutes ago, AwaoffSki said:

^^^ Really?

Please link the Technical Manual on that. 

 

I have the VW Erwin/elsawin paid for manuals....& self study guides for the MK7 Golf which uses the same ABS units (none EPB is fitted to USA cars).

 

Self study guide No541 all about the TPMS systems from 2014 & includes the MK7 Golf effective from 2013...47pages of tech stuff....

 

That's where I got my info from...

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Good.

Easy enough to fit a Spare wheel, reset the TPMS and get no warnings.

 

You can even go out, let one tyres pressure down 5 psi, reset the TPMS and get no warnings even with MQB platform cars.

6 minutes ago, AwaoffSki said:

 

 

You can even go out, let one tyres pressure down 5 psi, reset the TPMS and get no warnings even with MQB platform cars.

 

Any INDIRECT TPMS system you can do that to.....

 

Go alter every tyre pressure to different amounts..then press the "SET" button & it will store those tyres pressures as ok...which is why on the Infotainment & MDF is asks you "are the tyre pressures to be stored correct" when you press the button initially....

 

It you want to be able to set an actual figure/specified value & have it throw a TPMS warning when the tyre is less than that specified you need a DIRECT TPMS system...which is one with special tyre valves & receivers...much more complex & requires valves for every set of wheels for those people like me who run winters & summers...

We are talking about what the people in this thread are talking about. 

I can go outside now let the tyre pressure down on my 2016 Alhambra, drive a bit and get a Tyre Pressure warning because that wheel will be turning more because the circumference is less.

I can reset the TPMS as the pressures are, then drive on and get no warning.    Simple as that. 

 As for all the other stuff, very interesting.

 

EDIT,

So just did that, let 1 tyre down 10psi and see how it goes.

Later on fitting my winter wheels again, so will see if just as usual no issues from one set to another, 

and if there is a warning if the reset does the job.

Obviously the system is not faulty though, and does not take 60 minutes or more to get the circumference info.

 

PS

Cairn O Mount snow gates were closed the morning.

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6 minutes ago, AwaoffSki said:

 

I can go outside now let the tyre pressure down on my 2016 Alhambra, drive a bit and get a Tyre Pressure warning because that wheel will be turning more because the circumference is less.

I can reset the TPMS as the pressures are, then drive on and get no warning.    Simple as that. 

 

 

Of course you can do as you say.....As I said that's because its how the INDIRECT system works....& thus not a fault of it....maybe go buy the self study guides from Erwin a read up on how the different systems work???

 

Mind you....you of all people should know having been in the trade as you say...

Once again, latest TPMS doesn't measure circumference alone, but torsional resonance. I have already explained in details in some post before.

 

In that way this system is capable of measuring simultaneous change of air pressure in all 4 tires. 

 

This is a _very_ sophisticated system from a software point of view. From the HW point of view, costs 0, as it borrows all input from the already existing parts. Usually very capable in doing its job, but it is rather important to keep pressures correctly and calibrate the system properly. I suppose it is possible that some tires are putting difficulties on such system and cause false alarms, I've been reading people suffer sometimes, but we were driving 3 O3s in past 5 years, since very earliest model spring 2013, and never experienced false TPMS alarm.

 

So sophisticated.  yet is happy if you have 3 alloys with directional XL tyres and 1 steel spare with a different tyre,  slight size and width,  weight

  Or as I just fitted 2 snow tyres on the front and 2 all weather's on the rear.   TPMS set,  5 miles later happy as Larry.  

 

Nice and simple, a system that was for Run flat tyres as a warning for those that never know when they have a puncture, 

a warning.  BMW's / MINI's originally.

Unlike the other proper systems available that tells each tyre pressure and temperature in real time.

 

KISS is often good enough.  Over sensitive just a PITA,  and needing an Engineering Degree to understand or set too much for most people.

Technicians in a Skoda Dealership that can not operate them or diagnose a fault just not 'Simply Clever'.

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