Advertised CO2 vs "official" - worrying?

[Ruarl]

I'm going to look at a MY14 1.4 TSi Estate next week. As far as I can tell, the "official" Co2 emissions for this car is 119g/km, but the dealer has them listed at 121g/km. This is enough to bump the road tax up a bracket. Mileage is around 30k.

My question to you is, is this a sign of a deeper problem? What could go wrong to cause the emissions to go up? (Aside from no-one trusting VAG cars any more ) The dealer (Lookers, Newcastle) reckons it has a full service history with them, and no warranty work has been done. Obviously I can ask the dealer too, but I would like to go in armed with some anti-bull**** info.

[Ootohere]

Welcome.

 

Look at the V5 at the Dealership and see the Co2 g/km for the actual vehicle,

or before that get the sales person to send a photo of the V5,

and you can check on the DVLA 'Vehicle details check website'. If you know the Reg number, then look at the Co2 g/km that the car actually has officially.

http://gov.uk/get-vehicle-information-from-dvla 

 

A Skoda Main Dealer can print you off the Service & Warranty History, as is in the System. or Skoda can send you it.

Full Main Dealer Service History is no guarantee that Service Schedule items were done as required, like DSG Oil Change, Haldex or Brake Fluid Changes because even a car on a Service Plan might not have the work done at 3 Years, 30 or 40,000 miles.

http://skoda.co.uk/about-us/contact-us 

 

Servicing is not much that has been done in the 30,000 miles, 

but at 4 years old you will be wanting Spark Plugs changed, Air Filter, and what ever.  Budget for doing that.

See what their Full Servicing has been up to now, was the Brake Fluid changed last year, has the Pollen Filter been changed?

What are the tyres like?

http://skoda.co.uk/finance-and-offers/service-and-maintenance/simply-fixed 

Edited 21 April, 2018 by Offski

[shyVRS245]

22 minutes ago, Ruarl said:

I'm going to look at a MY14 1.4 TSi Estate next week. As far as I can tell, the "official" Co2 emissions for this car is 119g/km, but the dealer has them listed at 121g/km. This is enough to bump the road tax up a bracket. Mileage is around 30k.

My question to you is, is this a sign of a deeper problem? What could go wrong to cause the emissions to go up? (Aside from no-one trusting VAG cars any more ) The dealer (Lookers, Newcastle) reckons it has a full service history with them, and no warranty work has been done. Obviously I can ask the dealer too, but I would like to go in armed with some anti-bull**** info.

The first owner may have specified larger alloys from new (say 17" or 18") which could easily bump up the co2 into the next road tax band. Have seen this over the years when ordering new cars from the brochures, generally extra drag from wider tyres or less rolling resistance.

[Ruarl]

Offski, thanks for the welcome, and all the useful information.

The dealer claims the car will need no servicing for 9 months from when it's sold. The 4 year service is due in 8 months three weeks. Bad luck for them. I guess I can get them to show me what's been done in the computer system?

 

shyVRS245, That's a good point. From the video I've seen, it looks like the standard SE alloys, with 5 fat spokes. But the diameter is hard to tell by eye!

[Ootohere]

Do you have the car registration then, have you checked the DVLA link and what is the Co2 g/km & VED band?

 

ND64 KXG with 25,938 miles is 119 g/km

PF64 EKK a DSG is 116 g/km 

Edited 21 April, 2018 by Offski

[shyVRS245]

32 minutes ago, Offski said:

Do you have the car registration then, have you checked the DVLA link and what is the Co2 g/km & VED band?

 

ND64 KXG with 25,938 miles is 119 g/km

PF64 EKK a DSG is 116 g/km 

Good point Offski forgot about modern auto boxes often lowering the CO2!

[Ruarl]

25 minutes ago, Offski said:

Do you have the car registration then, have you checked the DVLA link and what is the Co2 g/km & VED band?

 

ND64 KXG with 25,938 miles is 119 g/km

PF64 EKK a DSG is 116 g/km 

 

Yeah, I did. It's ND64. Is that the info which is used to decide the road tax? That would make sense.

 

The Lookers page here has 121g/km. I wonder where they got that from? There is some other inconsistent information too - That page I linked says the car has the Bolero, but in a video from the dealer it has the screen with "NAV" and "TRAFFIC" buttons top right, which I think is the Amundsen.

[themanwithnoaim]

MY14 was too early for the tyre difference that was 15 plates onwards, I'd reckon the either you or the dealer has clicked the wrong link.

 

The DSG 1.4TSI was listed as 119g with the manual being 121g

 

The SE is alright but, the elegance is a far nicer car to spend any time in though both, have the god aweful rear torture suspension beam setup

[Ootohere]

Ruarl,  it will be interesting to hear when the last service was so that the next is due in 8 months 3 weeks.

Was it serviced just 3 months and a week ago, or when was it.

 

The servicing might have been on Variable / Flexible so last servicing done 14 months ago.

That meaning all servicing done with them in the near 26,00 miles is not very much.

A car that was a Demonstrator say or a short lease car might have a Service before 372 days / 9,400 miles, 

or the records show a Minor Service then the Service Indicator is put to Variable / Flexible. Or what ever.

http://volkswagen.co.uk/owners/servicing/regimes 

 

Edited 21 April, 2018 by Offski

[pist0nbr0ke]

Dealer in inaccurate advertisement shocker 

 

You have to treat them all as being wrong - most of them haven't a clue.

 

When the FL Octavia came out, I was nosying around a 230 TSI in a showroom, (marvelling at how fugly the new headlights are ) whereupon a salesman came over and started chatting...and proceeded to tell me with authority it was 4x4.

 

I let him down gently..."if that's a petrol 4x4 I'll give you a deposit now!" Of course it wasn't...

 

It doesn't exactly paint a confidence inspiring picture of a dealer when they don't even know what drivetrains are available!

[Ruarl]

2 hours ago, Offski said:

Ruarl,  it will be interesting to hear when the last service was so that the next is due in 8 months 3 weeks.

 

 

I was assuming that the items which should be done "Every 4 years" - new spark plugs, timing belt inspection, etc - would be due 4 years after the car was first registered, on 16/12/2014. Notice that 4 years from that date is just less than 9 months from now.

I found the maintenance manual in this thread. Is this the best reference for the service schedule?

 

@pist0nbr0ke I hoped they might know something. It's not like any of this stuff is magic hidden info. The dealer has since sent me through another screenshot from portal.cpn.vwg which seems to show the Amundsen. Although it doesn't list the ACC, which is shown on a screenshot from HPI "spec check". I think I'll just have to pay it a visit and look over everything carefully.

[SkodaVRS1963]

1 hour ago, pist0nbr0ke said:

Dealer in inaccurate advertisement shocker 

 

It doesn't exactly paint a confidence inspiring picture of a dealer when they don't even know what drivetrains are available!

 

When I Vt'd my VRS it had something like 23,000 miles on the clock; it resurfaced at a Skoda dealership in Rochdale about 2 weeks later advertised as having done almost double the mileage!

 

It's not exactly difficult to write down a five digit number accurately?

[Ootohere]

Ruarl,

Best assume nothing. 

If you are paying the price of a Major Service at a Skoda Main Dealer best tell them you are only paying that if the Spark Plugs are replaced and the Air Filter and 

that it will not be at the technicians discretion and yet you pay for stuff not changed.

 

Better value can be a Independent Specialist that might actually service / maintain your brakes having removed the wheels.

You might want a A/C Service, and if the Brake Fluid was not changed at 3 years have that done.

http://skoda.co.uk/finance-and-offers/service-and-maintenance/simply-fixed 

Edited 21 April, 2018 by Offski

[SWBoy]

The emissions figure that was used when the car was first registered is what counts, and Skoda dealers don't seem too clever at getting it right - I have a 2015 model 1.4TSI Elegance estate with factory fitted 17" wheels so it SHOULD have an official CO2 figure of over 120g/km BUT the V5C says 119g/km so I only pay £30 per year Road Tax.

 

It seems to be just luck, or lack of, whether you fall into the £30 or £110 band...

[Ruarl]

43 minutes ago, SWBoy said:

The emissions figure that was used when the car was first registered is what counts.

 

Well, that's reassuring. £30 tax. Nice.