Advice please. When I arrive home I pull up and the engine stops with Stop/Start.

I put selector in "N" because I do not know whether I will need to go forwards or backwards until I've assessed the situation. And no I don't open the door or take off my seat belt.

(This is connected with difficult parking where I live).  If I need to select "D" the engine does NOT start until I lift my foot slightly off the brake pedal.  But if I select "R" the engine DOES start immediately even with full pressure on the brake pedal.

I cannot find this difference referred to in the handbook and it seems "wrong" somehow.  Does your's do this? 

Thanks.

I think mine is the same, but I will check next time I drive.

I got fed up with the stop start, so i disconnected the little plug on the battery negative terminal to disable S&S voltage readout. It does throw a code, but only on obd11, not on dash. 

 

I started to hate it quite fast since I got the car. But it was the same as you describe. 

I press the button on the dash when I want to disable it.

7 hours ago, RickW said:

I press the button on the dash when I want to disable it.

 

I just could not remember to push it. If it had a remember function (without any mods to achieve this) now this would be Simply Clever...

Never tried stop/start with dsg but with a manual you simply can't detect it. Handbrake on and into neutral engine stops, depress clutch to select gear when ready to move off, engine starts and away you go. The only sound is when the engine starts but even that is so seamless it's easy to forget it's happened at all. 

 

I do wonder though if the starter motor will require attention earlier than usual with all the starts it makes.

 

Harry

I generally find stop start (in a manual car) irritating - it restarts smoothly enough, but most of the time the engine is stopped for too short a time to be worth the effort.

 

However, it will restart under a number of different/unexpected situations, besides pressing the clutch:

 

Car rolls forward with engine stopped - restarts at less than walking speed.

Restarts on pressing the accelerator (instead of the clutch), which is handy  if   when I stall it (I still find the initial power delivery when setting off with both 90 and 110 1.2TSI a bit awkward - sort of all or nothing. But that's another story which has been discussed before).

I find the stop start in my DSG illogical.  If I stop at say traffic lights for a while and the engine stops as well, if I put the handbrake on and the gear selector into neutral then take my foot off the brake pedal (which I what you would do in a manual car), the engine starts.  It will only stay stopped if I leave the selector in drive and keep my foot on the brake pedal.  But this dazzles the car behind.  Crazy way to work.

On 25/05/2018 at 12:37, johnh510 said:

I generally find stop start (in a manual car) irritating - it restarts smoothly enough, but most of the time the engine is stopped for too short a time to be worth the effort.

 

However, it will restart under a number of different/unexpected situations, besides pressing the clutch:

 

Car rolls forward with engine stopped - restarts at less than walking speed.

Restarts on pressing the accelerator (instead of the clutch), which is handy  if   when I stall it (I still find the initial power delivery when setting off with both 90 and 110 1.2TSI a bit awkward - sort of all or nothing. But that's another story which has been discussed before).

That's odd, I have never found the initial power delivery a problem, mind you what initial power does one need unless you want to race someone off from the lights? The car makes perfectly satisfactory progress on par with anything else.

Even more odd the reasons you give regarding starting in "different/unexpected situations besides pressing the clutch" 

The driving procedure is stop, handbrake on and into neutral. Engine stops... Can't roll forward, hand brake's on?

As for pressing the accelerator instead of the clutch?? You're supposed to be in neutral gear, hand brake on. Clutch LEFT foot Accelerator RIGHT foot.  Shouldn't be a problem.

I could list a hundred things a car would do if you don't drive it properly. Why blame the technology?

Hi Harry, your starter motor should last pretty much the life of the car even with stop/start thingy! The starter motors are specially beefed up on these beauties. Same as the alternators, they are beefier as well. Enjoy!

37 minutes ago, horkin said:

That's odd, I have never found the initial power delivery a problem, mind you what initial power does one need unless you want to race someone off from the lights? The car makes perfectly satisfactory progress on par with anything else.

Even more odd the reasons you give regarding starting in "different/unexpected situations besides pressing the clutch" 

The driving procedure is stop, handbrake on and into neutral. Engine stops... Can't roll forward, hand brake's on?

As for pressing the accelerator instead of the clutch?? You're supposed to be in neutral gear, hand brake on. Clutch LEFT foot Accelerator RIGHT foot.  Shouldn't be a problem.

I could list a hundred things a car would do if you don't drive it properly. Why blame the technology?

 

I wasn't "blaming the technology" of "stop start", the thread is about "stop start" oddities, so I thought it worth adding to the list.

 

I'll have to get some labels to remind me which is left and which is right, thanks for the helpful comment.

 

 

 

 

 

On 25/05/2018 at 11:47, horkin said:

Never tried stop/start with dsg but with a manual you simply can't detect it. Handbrake on and into neutral engine stops, depress clutch to select gear when ready to move off, engine starts and away you go. The only sound is when the engine starts but even that is so seamless it's easy to forget it's happened at all. 

 

I do wonder though if the starter motor will require attention earlier than usual with all the starts it makes.

 

Harry

 

Likewise - don’t usually even spot that stop-start has kicked in (er out!) on my Superb II until you hear the starter when you depress the clutch.

 

As well as the worry that it might wear out the starter quicker (although it's supposed to be beefed up) another concern is that it kicks out on mine when the engine is still very cold and in addition obviously stop/start AGM or EFB batteries are more expensive. 

 

A slight oddity has been a couple of times shortly after I bought the car I was caught out when setting off and didn't hear the starter motor whirr after depressing the clutch - the problem was the engine was still running and hadn't cut out for some reason (Driver error and those tsi engines are uber quiet!)

 

 

 

 

Edited 26 May, 20188 yr by bigjohn

2 hours ago, bigjohn said:

 

Likewise - don’t usually even spot that stop-start has kicked in (er out!) on my Superb II until you hear the starter when you depress the clutch.

 

As well as the worry that it might wear out the starter quicker (although it's supposed to be beefed up) another concern is that it kicks out on mine when the engine is still very cold and in addition obviously stop/start AGM or EFB batteries are more expensive. 

 

A slight oddity has been a couple of times shortly after I bought the car I was caught out when setting off and didn't hear the starter motor whirr after depressing the clutch - the problem was the engine was still running and hadn't cut out for some reason (Driver error and those tsi engines are uber quiet!)

 

 

 

 

 

If it was shortly after you bought the car, had it been standing, not driven for any length of time?. I believe there is a battery fail safe on the system that prevents the stop start operating if the battery has been drained. A short run usually is all that's needed for the system to operate fully again.

I agree about the quiet tsi and especially  your 1.4  in the Superb which have really nice sound proofing.

 

Hary

11 hours ago, horkin said:

 

If it was shortly after you bought the car, had it been standing, not driven for any length of time?. I believe there is a battery fail safe on the system that prevents the stop start operating if the battery has been drained. A short run usually is all that's needed for the system to operate fully again.

 

 

Indeed - when I bought my car it had been in the dealer system for 8 months of the cars 14 mount life (no one wanted a big petrol back in 2015!) - so probably hadn't had a good run for some time - The stop/start took many days to even work at all. The algorithm for the stop/start to work is a complex one involving battery condition, electrical load and many sensors (movement, car angle, temperature, pedal positions, doors, seat belts........) .  When I first got my car I simply wasn't used to stop/start and such a quiet engine (my previous Superb I had the great but loud 1.9 pd)

 

 

Edited 27 May, 20188 yr by bigjohn

Ah the 1.9 PD tractor. Had one in my first Fabia. Great engine, economical but, to put it politely, a bit vocal!  This is my first stop start too and I've taken to it like a duck to water. At least for anyone who doesn't like the system it can be switched off by the button on the dash.

 

Harry

i have to admit just the idea of this freaked me out on my mrs old car the monte carlo she had, luckily i drove it once only, but since owning my redline with it on 5 days now i have actually kept it on and it doesn't bother me at all.

 

On 26/05/2018 at 12:23, nbramwel said:

I find the stop start in my DSG illogical.  If I stop at say traffic lights for a while and the engine stops as well, if I put the handbrake on and the gear selector into neutral then take my foot off the brake pedal (which I what you would do in a manual car), the engine starts.  It will only stay stopped if I leave the selector in drive and keep my foot on the brake pedal.  But this dazzles the car behind.  Crazy way to work.

 

It will also stay stopped if you put the selector into Park before taking your foot off the pedal.  (I agree it should work in Neutral too.)

I think the start/stop works just as it should. N is to be used when for some reason you'd like to keep the engine idling (for example on a hot day to keep the air conditioning running when stopped and waiting for someone). P is the position meant to be used when stopped and don't want to keep pressing the brake pedal.

 

How long does it take for red lights to turn green in the UK if you should use handbrake instead of pressing the brake pedal?