Hi there,

 

It coming up to the time where I consider options on a new car and the Octavia SE-L estate is on the list.

 

I would be really interested in anyone who has the options letting me know their thoughts on the car and option.

 

- Does the SE-L have folding mirrors as standard as some places say yes others it’s an option?

- Does anyone have the electric front seats and if so is the lumber the 4 way electric or still manual?

- What’s the pan roof like and is the cover manual or electrically movable? Does the cover keep the heat out?

- Anyone got any pictures of the led interior lights and if the colour actually is noticeable. Eg set to blue at night.

- DCC any good? Sounds promising.

- Canton vs MIB 2 speakers. The standard MIB 1 was garbage, but is the 2 better or is canton really worth the extra still? 

- Can you have Electric front seats and Canton on an SEL?

- With the winter pack is the heated windscreen the wired or no visible wires version?

 

Thanks in advance 

 

24 minutes ago, cheezemonkhai said:

Hi there,

 

It coming up to the time where I consider options on a new car and the Octavia SE-L estate is on the list.

 

I would be really interested in anyone who has the options letting me know their thoughts on the car and option.

 

1 Does the SE-L have folding mirrors as standard as some places say yes others it’s an option?

2 Does anyone have the electric front seats and if so is the lumber the 4 way electric or still manual?

3 What’s the pan roof like and is the cover manual or electrically movable? Does the cover keep the heat out?

4 Anyone got any pictures of the led interior lights and if the colour actually is noticeable. Eg set to blue at night.

5 DCC any good? Sounds promising.

6 Canton vs MIB 2 speakers. The standard MIB 1 was garbage, but is the 2 better or is canton really worth the extra still? 

7 Can you have Electric front seats and Canton on an SEL?

8 With the winter pack is the heated windscreen the wired or no visible wires version?

 

Thanks in advance 

 

 

I will answer according my car:

1. Check with your dealer, on Style and RS here it goes with the trim

2. 4 way electric

3. Pan is great, use it every day, cover is manual, thin, it does keep the heat out on the decent level.

4. RS doesn't have it

5. Oh, yes. Absolutely yes and a must have option.

6. It worth extra in my opinion, a big difference comparing to stock music we have on Style, our another car.

7. Why not, they aren't in conflict? Anyway a topic to be checked with your dealer or try yourself in configuration - if it allows you to, 99% it is possible. 

8. It should be without wires on the new Octavias, but still visible. I don't have it, can't tell you from the first hand.

Thanks,

 

i checked the confifguration tool tool and for an SEL it’s canton or electric seats but not both. Guessing because both are electric rather than just 1 there is nowhere to hide the amp?

 

 

Can't be the reason, something else is the issue. I have both on my car. Seats were part of the trim, Canton was specified additionally. 

 

Do you have driver and passenger electric seats or just driver?

Both seats are fully electrical.

 

In my country amplifier is under a drivers seat.

 

Played a little bit with configurator and Canton definitely has no influence on the electric seats. But, there is an interior sport trim which doesn't allow leather seats, maybe this is the trim which is in your country SE-L? So, this could be the problem, not the Canton?

 

Edited 5 June, 20188 yr by nidza

Different regions will have different options but to the best of my knowledge here in the UK...

1 hour ago, cheezemonkhai said:

- Does the SE-L have folding mirrors as standard as some places say yes others it’s an option?

YES - (see additional features over SE on pricelist)

- Does anyone have the electric front seats and if so is the lumber the 4 way electric or still manual?

YES - and it's so much better than std lumbar

- What’s the pan roof like and is the cover manual or electrically movable? Does the cover keep the heat out?

Dunno - Never considered a sunroof since aircon became the norm in cars. £1000 quid with £0 return come resale didn't appeal.

- Anyone got any pictures of the led interior lights and if the colour actually is noticeable. Eg set to blue at night.

Don't have this in Octavia but have it on our SEAT. Colours very subtle. Wouldn't have selected as option if it wasn't already part of Xcellence pack.

- DCC any good? Sounds promising.

Have this on my car - hate it, would much rather prefer bog std cruise. The system may be intelligent as far as the car in front is concerned, the problem being it doesn't take in to account other traffic on the road. I find I'm constantly altering it just as much as I would normal cruise, the only difference being I have to additionally think ahead to what the car is likely to do. Accelleration / decelleration ain't very smooth either which affects fuel economy.

- Canton vs MIB 2 speakers. The standard MIB 1 was garbage, but is the 2 better or is canton really worth the extra still?

Good question. Sound is one of the few issues with my Octavia - basically it's bloody awful to these ears. Canton can only improve things but I reckon £500 better spent on aftermarket upgrade.

- Can you have Electric front seats and Canton on an SEL?

Even better question. No according to brochure. I have electric seats, Canton wasn't an option. Interestingly, Canton is part of the L&K package but only the drivers seat is electric. (Amp sits under UK passenger seat). If you select both electric seat option on L&K, the Canton is replaced by umbrella under passenger seat. (not a difficult decision then ). I alway s thought you couldn't have electric seats + canton amp, but someone above said you can and suggests it may have something to do with leather seats? Well he/she may well be right because surprisingly leather isn't an option on L&K models with Canton here in the UK.

 

1 hour ago, cheezemonkhai said:

- With the winter pack is the heated windscreen the wired or no visible wires version?

Check this out (on pre-facelift model at least)  Heated screen

 

Only ever experienced wired windscrens in my previous cars and they don't defrost like that!  My guess is no wires then.

43 minutes ago, Scot5 said:

Different regions will have different options but to the best of my knowledge here in the UK...

 

 

DCC is Dynamic Chassis Control I think you are talking about ACC (Active Cruise Control). 

 

DCC is ok but I don't find I change the settings very often. I could live without it. Others rave about it though.

It's not about changing settings, it's about it adapting the chassis continuously according the various inputs.

As a result you have noticeably more comfortable car on 19" then our another Octavia on 16".

7 hours ago, cheezemonkhai said:

Hi there,

 

It coming up to the time where I consider options on a new car and the Octavia SE-L estate is on the list.

 

I would be really interested in anyone who has the options letting me know their thoughts on the car and option.

 

- Does the SE-L have folding mirrors as standard as some places say yes others it’s an option?

- Does anyone have the electric front seats and if so is the lumber the 4 way electric or still manual?

- What’s the pan roof like and is the cover manual or electrically movable? Does the cover keep the heat out?

- Anyone got any pictures of the led interior lights and if the colour actually is noticeable. Eg set to blue at night.

- DCC any good? Sounds promising.

- Canton vs MIB 2 speakers. The standard MIB 1 was garbage, but is the 2 better or is canton really worth the extra still? 

- Can you have Electric front seats and Canton on an SEL?

- With the winter pack is the heated windscreen the wired or no visible wires version?

 

Thanks in advance 

 

 

I drove a vrs with the dcc on it and I was impressive by it. Wish it was an option when I bought my car.

 

I've got the canton speakers on my car and I do think they are worth the money. I wouldn't say you hear the difference listening to the radio, but listening to an album from either a cd or off the sd card, you do get a brilliant quality sound.

 

I've also got the heated windscreen and you can only see the elements if you start looking for them. The only which was on my old tranny van was blatant which ever direction you looked at it

Has anyone who has Canton heard the standard MIB 2?

 

I ask only as I know the MIB1 was rubbish, but I have heard the 2 was not Canton standard, but much better.

 

the options restriction means electric seats or Canton or got up to L&K at £££, which doesn’t sound great.

 

 

14 minutes ago, cheezemonkhai said:

Has anyone who has Canton heard the standard MIB 2?

 

I ask only as I know the MIB1 was rubbish, but I have heard the 2 was not Canton standard, but much better.

 

the options restriction means electric seats or Canton or got up to L&K at £££, which doesn’t sound great.

 

 

 

Yes, when I was in the showroom checking it out for my car, I went in a vrs (which I test drove) which didn't have it and an L&K (which was a showroom car) which did have it.

 

I felt the sound on the standard speakers to be a little bit tinny and that was with me having one hell of a fiddle with the controls.

 

I came out of the vrs and went into the L&K, and I could hear a distinct difference in the quality. Again, I had a mess about with the controls (wanted to see what the subby could do) but overall I was happy with the quality difference to warrant putting it on my order.

 

Don't get me wrong, the standard ones aren't awful, but I feel it's worth getting the canton.

2 hours ago, cheezemonkhai said:

Has anyone who has Canton heard the standard MIB 2?

 

I ask only as I know the MIB1 was rubbish, but I have heard the 2 was not Canton standard, but much better.

 

the options restriction means electric seats or Canton or got up to L&K at £££, which doesn’t sound great.

 

 

 

It is not rubbish, but Canton is better at least how it costs.

 

MIB2 in basic setup is absolutely miles ahead MIB1. We replaced Elegance TDI with Swing to another Style TDI with Swing, and music quality is very much improved.

 

23 hours ago, nidza said:

It's not about changing settings, it's about it adapting the chassis continuously according the various inputs.

As a result you have noticeably more comfortable car on 19" then our another Octavia on 16".

 

The 16" wheel car must have a really dreadful ride then.

Why do you think so? DCC on comfort is making Škoda really floaty, although on 19". What is maybe more important that car on DCC behaves very much differently comparing to fixed suspension setup, in a much positive way. Fixed suspension is very stiff on little anomalies road is full of them, but okay on a big ones, which occur much rarely. DCC is handling regular road issues much better, filtering them almost perfectly. 

 

Let' s not forget we are entering a danger subjective zone. On my personal opinion owning both cars, suspension on 150 HP TDI is much more annoying. 

On 05/06/2018 at 13:59, juan27 said:

 

DCC is Dynamic Chassis Control I think you are talking about ACC (Active Cruise Control). 

 

DCC is ok but I don't find I change the settings very often. I could live without it. Others rave about it though.

Sorry, my mistake entirely. I'll get my coat...

Edited 6 June, 20188 yr by Guest

On 6/5/2018 at 10:55, cheezemonkhai said:

 

 

- Does the SE-L have folding mirrors as standard as some places say yes others it’s an option?

 

This is actually a NO!

 

The brochure is a bit misleading... It says: "ELECTRICALLY ADJUSTABLE, HEATED AND FOLDABLE MIRRORS WITH BOARDING SPOTS"

 

The mirror angles can be changed electronically, they are heated, the do have boarding spotlights and they can be folded manually.

 

You need to pay extra to have the auto-folding mirrors which fold and unfold automatically when you unlock the car. I had to ask the same question but ended up having to pay about £125 to get the auto-folding mirrors.

 

https://tools.skoda.co.uk/content/brochure/brochure_octavia.pdf     Page 22

11 hours ago, spinnaker said:

The brochure is a bit misleading... It says: "ELECTRICALLY ADJUSTABLE, HEATED AND FOLDABLE MIRRORS WITH BOARDING SPOTS"

The key word there is "FOLDABLE" not FOLDING.

12 hours ago, spinnaker said:

 

This is actually a NO!

 

The brochure is a bit misleading... It says: "ELECTRICALLY ADJUSTABLE, HEATED AND FOLDABLE MIRRORS WITH BOARDING SPOTS"

 

The mirror angles can be changed electronically, they are heated, the do have boarding spotlights and they can be folded manually.

 

You need to pay extra to have the auto-folding mirrors which fold and unfold automatically when you unlock the car. I had to ask the same question but ended up having to pay about £125 to get the auto-folding mirrors.

 

https://tools.skoda.co.uk/content/brochure/brochure_octavia.pdf     Page 22

 

37 minutes ago, SWBoy said:

The key word there is "FOLDABLE" not FOLDING.

 

I have electric mirrors and they're foldable if I want them to be - there's no word trickery there.

 

If you have a look at te price list, the S (and SE) states: Electrically adjustable and heated door mirrors (I assume mirrors on S and SE are manually folding)

 

SE-L adds (over SE): Electrically adjustable, heated and foldable mirrors with boarding spots.  If you then go on to the optional extras...

 

I was under the impression the £130 option was just to add 'Auto Dimming' functionality to the SE-L mirrors?

 

 

I agree, it's all confusing. many more examples of this when browsing the options list.

 

 

 

Edited 7 June, 20188 yr by Guest

20 hours ago, nidza said:

Why do you think so? DCC on comfort is making Škoda really floaty, although on 19". What is maybe more important that car on DCC behaves very much differently comparing to fixed suspension setup, in a much positive way. Fixed suspension is very stiff on little anomalies road is full of them, but okay on a big ones, which occur much rarely. DCC is handling regular road issues much better, filtering them almost perfectly. 

 

Let' s not forget we are entering a danger subjective zone. On my personal opinion owning both cars, suspension on 150 HP TDI is much more annoying. 

 

Hmmm. Floaty is not a word I would use. I haven't driven a Mk3 on 16s without IRS. I have however swapped out of a MK2 VRS on 18s and even in comfort I can't say the 245 with DCC is better riding than that.  I also can't detect any improvement from it reacting to sensor inputs. But as you say, all subjective. 

Edited 7 June, 20188 yr by juan27

5 minutes ago, Scot5 said:

I have electric mirrors and they're foldable if I want them to be - there's no word trickery there.

I beg to differ, IMHO Skoda have very carefully chosen the word foldable in a possible attempt to confuse/mislead.

 

Foldable means the mirrors are capable of being folded by some means - and Skoda mean manually by hand.

Folding is used to indicate folded by electric motor when applied to car mirrors.

 

I have electrically heated, adjustable & folding mirrors on my Elegance.

 

Careful/misleading use of words is part of the "art" of writing a specification (which I did a lot during my working life) so that the customer thinks he is getting more than you are actually offering. Sharp practice? - yes, but that's what most businesses do (sadly).

Ha ha ha.  We're going to end up with more conspiracy theories than JFK.  You may well be right, it's careful wording. Personally I really can't see any point why a manufacturer would do this - they want you to be happy with your car, not unhappy. And if they wanted to sell options, wouldn't it make sense to highlght the fact the car doesn't come with a particular function?  If I wanted to make money out of selling the folding mirror option, I wouldn't try to suggest it's standard equipment.

 

Moreover you fail to address what the brouchure/price lists say.  There is no indication whatsoever that the S ans SE have 'Foldable' mirrors. Yet the SE-L specs specifically add that they are 'Foldable'.

 

Perhaps it's just my poor grasp of the English langage but Foldable or Folding -   it's the same thing , something has the capability to be folded.  Where does electricity come in to it?

Edited 7 June, 20188 yr by Guest

4 hours ago, Scot5 said:

 

 

I have electric mirrors and they're foldable if I want them to be - there's no word trickery there.

 

If you have a look at te price list, the S (and SE) states: Electrically adjustable and heated door mirrors (I assume mirrors on S and SE are manually folding)

 

SE-L adds (over SE): Electrically adjustable, heated and foldable mirrors with boarding spots.  If you then go on to the optional extras...

 

I was under the impression the £130 option was just to add 'Auto Dimming' functionality to the SE-L mirrors?

 

 

I agree, it's all confusing. many more examples of this when browsing the options list.

 

 

 

 

That is indeed the option that I went for.  I don't think that just adds the auto dimming. The little green i on the configuration (top right in the pic above) says: "Parking on a narrow road? Reduce the risk of damage when the car is parked with the electrically operated door mirrors. The mirrors fold in automatically after the car has been locked, and automatically fold out again when the car is unlocked."

 

TBH I have never actually noticed the auto-dimming feature but perhaps that means it is doing the job without problems.

3 hours ago, Scot5 said:

Perhaps it's just my poor grasp of the English langage but Foldable or Folding -   it's the same thing , something has the capability to be folded. 

 

I think I would interpret it to be like this:

- foldable -> can be folded

- folding -> folds itself

 

I had to ask a few dealers before ordering to get a straight answer on this 'do they or don't they fold themselves on the SE L' question.

Edited 7 June, 20188 yr by spinnaker

52 minutes ago, spinnaker said:

I think I would interpret it to be like this:

- foldable -> can be folded

- folding -> folds itself

What I've been saying