I want to change to a cheaper car, I have been looking around and have found this car - https://www.jonglanvillautocentre.co.uk/used-cars/skoda-octavia-1-9-tdi-pd-elegance-5dr-torquay-201806127429752

 

Could anyone shed some light on how a DSG at 90k miles perform? How many miles is it likely to be good for?

The car is wanted as a cheap car to get to work and back and not too much else other than errand running. 

The car looks in good condition from the pictures, but I shall go and see it tomorrow or at the weekend.

What are your feelings of the advert? Is it a bad investment? I'd likely change it after a couple of years at most.

 

Finally, the DSG 6 speed apparently drives more like a slushbox auto than the 7 speed DSG, which is what I like about it. Is this true?

 

Thanks

Edited 12 July, 20187 yr by gman88667733

It says it is a manual.

 

A 6 speed DSG drives like a 6 Speed dsg.   Different from some 7 speed Dry Clutch DSG right enough.

But then a 7 Speed Dry DSG in a Diesel can drive different from a small capacity petrol with one.

Edited 12 July, 20187 yr by Offski

Advert is a bit misleading as it does not have esp or 17" alloys so check if it really does have xenon headlights and curtain airbags as these are not standard spec items but optional extras.

 

The 6 speed auto is a dsg box but the only difference with the clutch being oil cooled where as the 7 speed clutch is dry.  It is probably more reliable compared 7 speed box.

Phoned the guy up, he says it has got xenons. The advert was wrong in saying manual, it is DSG. It has done the majority of its miles in the past 4 years. Full Skoda service history, they got it from a Skoda branch that was a part exchange that they didn't want.

He says they'll do the DSG oil change before I come to view it as it needs to be done.

Yeah it does have xenon's and curtain airbags as I can see from the pics.  The 6 speed dsg box is a good one and will last with regular oil changes at every 40k.  You should ask for the registration number so you can view the Mot history as you can normally tell a lot from the advisories what the owner was like with the up keep.

FDSH means nothing other than Oil / Filters done, maybe sometimes because if the Dealership servicing followed Manufacturers Guidelines the DSG would have been serviced at 40,000 & 80,000 miles.

So in the last 10,000 miles the DSG oil change was overdue, or the first one was.

 

But you always go on condition,

and hopefully they know how to do the Oil change and you get your warranty that will be valid for 3 months anyway and your consumer rights.

 

Look at the FDSH book and receipts and see when work was done like the Brake Fluid changed, any belts, the water pump or whatever.

Edited 12 July, 20187 yr by Offski

Gotcha. Reg is CA05 UNG

My only concern is the DSG oil change was overdue, because he said he couldn't see any record of it on the paperwork he had. But it had been serviced by Skoda every time.

Also, would this car have a DPF?

1 hour ago, gman88667733 said:

Also, would this car have a DPF?

No it doesn't so no need to worry

Also, the water pump and cambelt. They say on their website that they check all their cars to see if they need doing. How often does it need to be done? I assume both need to be done at once? What is the normal cost of this?

That looks a good buy. It's a well optioned car. 

 

I have the same car, albeit the estate version and I'd say the 1.9 with the dsg box is the pick of the bunch.

 

It's never going to set the world on fire but with the dsg it's no slouch. Although it's only 105hp it really doesn't feel like so little. 

 

I dropped down from a 160hp Fabia vRS to mine and it's still no problem overtaking etc. 

 

 Mine has now done 158,000 and it barely feels run in. 

 

It will easily do an indicated 60+mpg on my 13 mile morning commute. In reality this is probably more like higher 50s but still very good. 

 

 A cam belt and water pump from an independent garage should be around 280-300.  It needs doing every 60,000 or 4 years. 

 

Diy servicing on these including the dsg oil is a doodle if you're that way inclined. 

48 minutes ago, softscoop said:

That looks a good buy. It's a well optioned car. 

 

I have the same car, albeit the estate version and I'd say the 1.9 with the dsg box is the pick of the bunch.

 

It's never going to set the world on fire but with the dsg it's no slouch. Although it's only 105hp it really doesn't feel like so little. 

 

I dropped down from a 160hp Fabia vRS to mine and it's still no problem overtaking etc. 

 

 Mine has now done 158,000 and it barely feels run in. 

 

It will easily do an indicated 60+mpg on my 13 mile morning commute. In reality this is probably more like higher 50s but still very good. 

 

 A cam belt and water pump from an independent garage should be around 280-300.  It needs doing every 60,000 or 4 years. 

 

Diy servicing on these including the dsg oil is a doodle if you're that way inclined. 

Thank you for your input. I am looking forward to going and seeing it! Do you ever notice the DSG box in your car changing up too early? That's my big gripe with my current Yeti, it'll be in top gear by 30mph and it can't cope with it.

The price seems good too, so if they do everything I ask, I'm happy to pay the full price really.

 

I will ask if the cambelt/water pump is due, if so, I'll see if they can do it as part of the deal

 

Another thing, on the final picture, it shows the headlight switch. What is the first option on it? It is automatic lights? I'm not sure if this would have that and rain sensing wipers.

Edited 13 July, 20187 yr by gman88667733

It does change up early but I don't notice it as a problem. It certainly doesn't bog down. 

 

Yes that switch is auto headlights. The elegance gets auto rain sense wipers and auto dipping rear view mirror as standard too. 

 

Okay. So it never feels like it is struggling to accelerate? I find with my current car that when it is in too high a gear, if I accelerate all the car does is vibrate and struggle, it won't accelerate until I press hard enough for it to kick down.

Edited 13 July, 20187 yr by gman88667733

No it never feels like a struggle, even at low rpm. 

The 1.9 PD engines have a good amount of torque, especially low down which really helps. 

1.9 is (mostly) a very reliable car.

Main costs in maintenance are the DMF (150k miles on average), the turbo (depends on the previous owner: if the car has regular oil topups and changes, and isnt pushed with a cold block, it can last very long), and AC (stone hits in the condensor, eventually causing compressor fail)

 

However, there are some models with issues which I won't recommend to buy.

 

Do you know which exact engine it has? The BLS and BXE engines are definitely to avoid, unless you have written proof of the conrod bearings beeing replaced. (Just google for BLS Conrod failure)

 

No DPF... My 2005 has also no DPF. For the environment.. not that good. For your wallet: better: No DPF which eventually has to be replaced.

 

Don't know about the UK, but in mainland Europe however these models are on the hitlist, mostly in cities. For example for Germany you're not getting a green emission sticker, required for most of their bigger cities. This also applies to other countries, and is likely to expend even more.

 

About the power: 105HP is fine, I never had a lack of power with my engine. Overtaking has never been an issue. Also no problem in overtaking when driving uphil (Eg in the south of Germany).

If you are planning on using a towbar and a massive load, some more power might be handy. 

 

Off course you can spend another 300 or so to boost the engine to approx 140HP (stage 1 tuning)

 

Edited 13 July, 20187 yr by DJSmiley

It will be purely a commuting car.

It apparently was run on long life oil for the last few years

Although I'd get it serviced yearly and change to regular oil

You can get the Oil Change annually, but being a Diesel you will be using the same correct spec oil.

 

Not like with your TSI where you can go VW502 (5w 40 FS)  Fixed servicing or VW504/507 Variable. (5w 30 FS Long Life.)

Okay, thanks for that info.

Garage have booked the car to go for a DSG oil change on Wednesday, I am viewing it tomorrow to test drive it

Another thing, is it possible to retrofit a bolero system into the MK2? I'm sure the stream system is fine for me, but I prefer the look of the bolero. Or any aftermarket screen really.

Yes it's dead straight forward.

You'll need to upgrade the can gateway at the same time otherwise it will flatten your car battery, but on a 2005 it's behind the glove box so very easy to get to and swap. 

Nice.

Sadly, after passing every MOT for a good few years now, it just failed on a worn CV boot. Frustrating! I suppose at least that is an easy fix, nothing else major was picked up.

Another thing, is it possible to swap the MFSW with the MFSW from the next model after this one? The 3 spoke one with the old badge still. Is that possible?