An interesting update, particularly the increase in the allowance of NOx emissions under the new testing procedure.

 

 

From 1 September 2017, more stringent and realistic tests will be used to certify new car models against the Euro 6 emission limits.

A new laboratory test cycle known as WLTP (the Worldwide harmonised Light duty Test Procedure) will apply to all new type approvals and a year later, from 1 September 2018, will apply to all new car registrations.

An additional, on road, emissions test known as the Real Driving Emissions or RDE test has been introduced alongside the WLTP laboratory test to help make sure that cars meet emissions limits in a much wider range of driving conditions.

An RDE test will last between 90 and 120 minutes and take in a mix of 'normal' urban, rural and motorway driving.

RDE is being introduced in two steps:

RDE step 1 – applies to new type approvals from 1 September 2017 and to all new registrations from 1 September 2019.

• For RDE1 a NOx conformity factor of 2.1 will apply meaning that NOx emissions in the RDE1 test can be up to 2.1 times the Euro 6 laboratory limit of 80mg/km.
• Cars type approved during this period will be described as meeting Euro 6d-temp.

RDE step 2 – applies to new type approvals from 1 January 2020 and to all new registrations from 1 January 2021.

• For RDE2 the NOx conformity factor is 1.0 but with an error margin of 0.5 meaning that NOx emissions in the RDE2 test can be up to 1.5 times the Euro 6 laboratory limit of 80mg/km.
• Cars type approved during this period will be described as meeting Euro 6d.

From September 2018, the Euro standard to which a new car has been certified will be shown on the V5c vehicle registration document and the online ' Get vehicle information from DVLA ' service.

In the Autumn 2017 budget the Chancellor announced an increase in the first year VED rate of one band for new diesels first registered from 1 April 2018 that don't meet the Euro 6d standard.

Updated 11 December 2017

 

 

 

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It is an 'Update' from the 11th December 2017.   This is the 24th September 2018....

Do keep up at the back, guys.....

But only those at the front of the class have heard about it.

Next you'll be telling me the dog ate your homework.....

You would be quite surprised as to how many have absolutely no idea about how much road tax has increased in the last two years never mind emission regulations.

10 minutes ago, Channel said:

You would be quite surprised as to how many have absolutely no idea about how much road tax has increased in the last two years never mind emission regulations.

 

But it hasn't gone up much, the fabias we have, have gone up £10.

 

New system from April 17 mean many new large cars will pay less than if they were under the old system. I never could understand how Hybrids that cheat the system with their made up fantasy figures should be zero rated. But cars registered before April 17 still pay next to nowt.

Edited 24 September, 20187 yr by xman

I could not agree more xman.  Looking at the new Mitsubishi outlander PHEV in WhatCar they have it down as 160mpg gov. figures.  It must be the worlds greatest petrol engine in any car after the battery runs out after 25 miles.  Similar in Auto Express with the Range Rover PHEV that is down 101mpg.  The whole thing is an absolute farce.  But looking at car reliability tables I doubt the Range Rover will travel that far anyway.

Where did What Car get 'Government figures of 160 mpg.  Is this UK Government figures or are you reading that wrongly.

 

You can get the equivalent to 160 MPG doing short commutes, plugging in the car or doing regen braking, coasting etc, 

so drive 160 miles over 2 weeks and only need 4.546 litres of fuel for a ICE.

Like they say with many Plug in Hybrids.  ?  Why so many Hybrids have only DRL's on and No Dipped Beam IME. Or heating.

 

European Government accepted testing was never about 'out on a road figures'.

http://skoda.co.uk/pages/fuel-consumption-statement.aspx

 

 

Are the What Car getting WLTP / RDE figures from the gov?  Or just something from Media Packs from the Manufacturers for Comparison.

The Implausible / Irregular C02 g/km & MPG's that are the reason that even the WLTP / RDE is nonsense.

 

Why there is no 1.4 TSI Hybrid Golf or A3 anymore and we are waiting on 1.5 TSI Hybrids from VW Group and WLTP results.

http://volkswagen.co.uk/owners/wltp

 

There was Kidology, and VW said they stopped taking orders because of the High Demand and growing waiting list.

Truth more likely being, caught out with fiction of C02 g/km and Fuel use.

Discontinuing 1.4 TSI / TFSI's that were Implausible / irregular or as some know, fiddled not fuddled.

 

Amazing cars, wonderful, just do not cheat the UK Tax Payers,the UK Treasury, HMRC and Philip Hammond MP.

You can fool some of the people like the German, French, Italian & UK Government when they want you to, 

but the North Americans, Canadians, Chinese, Japanese, South Korean Governments will not be taken the pith out of.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 25 September, 20187 yr by Offski

40 minutes ago, Offski said:

Where did What Car get 'Government figures of 160 mpg.  Is this UK Government figures or are you reading that wrongly.

 

You can get the equivalent to 160 MPG doing short commutes, plugging in the car or doing regens, 

so drive 160 miles over 2 weeks and only need 4.546 litres of fuel for a ICE.

Like they say with many Plug in Hybrids.

 

That's why the old NEDC and the new WLTP RDE NEDC is still all twaddle that hybrid s can game. And as for EV, lots of fantasy there too regarding equivalent CO2 mpg etc.

They are down in the Magazine as Gov mpg.  What is interesting is that in Auto Express they are down as 148mpg. As you rightly say, the whole thing is a load of twaddle.

Not read What Car, but just read Autocar that is owned by Haymarket Media Group the same as What Car & Pistonheads.

 

so the Mitsubishi PHEV has been WLTP Approved and gets the UK Governments PiCG Purchase Inicitive £2,500 grant for low emission vehicles.

So they are accepting what Co2 g/km the WLTP has given them.

Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV 4h 2018 UK review _ Autocar.mhtml