I was helped a lot on this forum 4 years ago when picking my company car which is now due to go back - 64 plate Superb Estate Elegance.

 

I am now picking its replacement. Considering a Passat vs Superb. I am swaying towards a Passat SE business just for a change more than anything. I am also looking at the superb SE Technology and SEL, or paying a bit more tax for a Passat GT (that sunroof ).

Either way, with the hikes to BIK and WLTP I am going to be paying more in tax and would like to keep it down. I am hoping the 1.6 diesel engines will be WLTP tested soon and have scrape into lower BIK bands. 

 

Does anyone know what the delay with the 1.6 is? Any rumours on when the figures might be out?

 

Thanks

I have swapped to petrol to save on the bik.

 

superb Sportline estate drives better than the Passat and is quieter and better equipped (I have the pan roof on mine).

 

biggest no no for me with VW was the useless dealers who, after you’ve explained what you want, then phone you offering you something completely different in pretty much every way. R line had the desired spec, but the most stupid coloured seats ever.

 

The interior on the Vw was as dull as ditchwater too. Dash is plain, ambient lighting is minimal and the Skoda just feels nicer.

Edited 19 November, 20187 yr by Flipfly

For my mileage the savings in BIK on petrol is pretty much cancelled out by the fuel saving. I also hate filling up - so bigger range of diesel appeals.

 

I dont have to deal with the dealers fortunately, that is all sorted by lease company.

 

I sat in a new passat GT and I found the interior stunning compared to my current superb. But I think part of that is just wanting something different.

 

I think both cars are great, and hopefully the 1.6 diesel might come along soon.

Anyone buying or leasing any 1.6 TDI SCR that has been WLTP approved would be well advised to drive one of the models with that engine before ordering.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/458492-lack-of-power-in-the-16tdi

 

Risky to assume that the Post WLTP and with SCR will be the same performance wise as pre WLTP.

I’ve just got 630 miles out of my Superb Combi 1.4ACT and that wasn’t a great deal of motorway miles. It has a massive fuel tank so no issues with refuelling every 5 minutes like my colleagues A4 avant with it’s tiny tank.

 

The Sportline interior is lovely imho, VW has the digital dash which is nice, but Skoda seats are more comfy imho.

 

if you are paying BIK then the 1.4ACT is a good £40 a month cheaper than a similarly powered, similarly spec VW. I get a free gallon of fuel every tank vs diesel costs and with that gallon I’m about 2-3 mpg worse off. I’d say cost wise diesel vs petrol are very similar as company vehicles now, but cost us as drivers a little less. I do 45k p/a.

 

@Flipfly  how many litres does it take to fill it again from doing 630 miles?

It took 70 litres @ 1.20/litre =£84

 

My old insignia would have taken around 68 litres at 630 miles @ 1.30 litre = £88.40 and that was a hatchback and a smaller car by some way.

 

Admittedly the insignia was spanked a little harder, but there’s not much in it. Just getting rid of that 4 cylinder diesel thrum is a revolution.

 

My wife has a 6cyl merc diesel e350 coupe and that is lovely, but 4 cal diesels really are horribly tedious things when compared to the the hush of a 4 cal petrol. 

 

Longish motorway run tomorrow should show what I could get out of the 1.4

41 MPG out of a tankful is so so if you are driving an empty car even a big one.

1 hour ago, Flipfly said:

I’ve just got 630 miles out of my Superb Combi 1.4ACT and that wasn’t a great deal of motorway miles. It has a massive fuel tank so no issues with refuelling every 5 minutes like my colleagues A4 avant with it’s tiny tank.

 

The Sportline interior is lovely imho, VW has the digital dash which is nice, but Skoda seats are more comfy imho.

 

if you are paying BIK then the 1.4ACT is a good £40 a month cheaper than a similarly powered, similarly spec VW. I get a free gallon of fuel every tank vs diesel costs and with that gallon I’m about 2-3 mpg worse off. I’d say cost wise diesel vs petrol are very similar as company vehicles now, but cost us as drivers a little less. I do 45k p/a.

 

 

Really interesting, thank you. I certainly haven't ruled out the 1.5TSI yet. 

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For my mileage the savings in BIK on petrol is pretty much cancelled out by the fuel saving. 

 

BIK saving means you pay less. If the majority of mileage is for work then don't they cover that?

I claim 15p a mile whether its a petrol or diesel. 

 

I was basing my back of an envelope calculations on a 1.5tsi being 45mpg and 2.0tdi 52mpg (roughly what I get now). 

The majority of my current mileage is shorter journeys. According to my records:

 

- Skoda Superb 1.4TSI (150PS) SE L Exec DSG, 8600 miles, average mpg is 34mpg

- Audi A3 saloon 1.4TFSI (150PS)  S-Line S-Tronic/DSG, 23805 miles, average mpg is 34mpg

- VW Passat CC 2.0TDI (170PS) GT manual, 21,415 miles, 36mpg

 

If the Passat was auto I think I'd have got a little better. But for my driving the three are similar. Best overall mpg is a tie with the Skoda and Audi.

2 hours ago, Flipfly said:

It took 70 litres @ 1.20/litre =£84

 

 

Its a 66 litre tank. Not a good idea to fill beyond the click off point, could damage evap system.

I have a 1.4TSI and once I refilled when the warning light was on. It took more than 66 litres before it clicked off at the pump.

 

Indeed some figures for litres purchased (stopped when the fuel pump clicked off):

 

• 67.78l
• 68.81l
• 64.59l

 

Only one of those even had the fuel warning light on.

12 minutes ago, rtj70 said:

I have a 1.4TSI and once I refilled when the warning light was on. It took more than 66 litres before it clicked off at the pump.

 

Indeed some figures for litres purchased (stopped when the fuel pump clicked off):

 

• 67.78l
• 68.81l
• 64.59l

 

Only one of those even had the fuel warning light on.

Ok, point taken.

 

Just thought to remind that brimming beyond the click off point is a potentially expensive mistake.

You were right to point it out. I am surprised it takes so much fuel when it is not totally empty!

 

8 minutes ago, rtj70 said:

You were right to point it out. I am surprised it takes so much fuel when it is not totally empty!

 

Wish my MKII did - rarely get much more than 50l in mine - I never go past the 1st click though since I once triggered an EML overfilling just after I bought the car. Whilst it's reasonably economical for a petrol I miss the 750+ mile range I used to get with my Superb I 1.9 pd100 - that used to take about 68l+ which was useful in France setting off to the Dordogne knowing you didn't need to fill up en-route.

 

 

 

I don't know the fuel capacity of a Superb mark II but the mark III is 66 litres. My Audi A3 (also based on the MQB platform) and Golf and others are only 50 litres. The Passat CC/previous Passat had a 70 litres fuel tank.

12 hours ago, xman said:

 

Its a 66 litre tank. Not a good idea to fill beyond the click off point, could damage evap system.

 

Copy of the receipt and it didn’t click until the end. It was still showing 25 miles left!

 

Edited 20 November, 20187 yr by Flipfly

66 litres tanks and can get another 7 litre or so up the pipe without even 'venting', 

just as you can with 45 litres tanks in a Fabia say, over 50 litres can go in when some range / fuel still in the tank .

 

I have a 63 litre tank in the Alhambra diesel but when there is a 60 mile range left it only will take in 63 litres.

Does 730 miles on 63 litres though.