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Front fogs, rear wipers and washers not working

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Hi guys, I have a strange problem with my 2006 Octavia 1.9 elegance, I noticed the other day during rubbish weather that my front fog lights were going on and off when they felt like, when they were going on and off I can hear a relay clicking, also at the same time my rear wiper stops as well, also the front washers stop working but the headlight washers work fine. The problem seems to be related because when one problem starts working, they all start working!

 

Anyone any ideas?

Could be water getting into the under bonnet e-box, common problem I believe.

  • Author

Thanks for that, I will do search for e-box on here.

I think it's near the battery somewhere. It's got all of the engine bay fuses and relays in it and I sure I've read of some suffering damp issues with strange electrical gremlins being the outcome. I believe drying out with a hairdryer is recommended, although never had to go into it on mine.

  • Author

Thanks, I will look when I am at home, I'm on the dreaded night shifts at the moment, however I have just connected up my laptop to my car and this is what vcds says:

 

Saturday,08,December,2018,22:50:43:05031
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 15.7.1.0 (x64)
Data version: 20150904
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: TMBBS21Z262226789   License Plate: 
Mileage: 219500km-136390mi   Repair Order: 

 

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Chassis Type: 1Z (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 69 72 76

VIN: TMBBS21Z262226789   Mileage: 219500km-136390miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03G-906-016-BKC.lbl
   Part No SW: 03G 906 016 K    HW: 028 101 223 7
   Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000SG  7002  
   Revision: 12345678    Serial number: SKZ7Z0F3480453
   Coding: 0000071
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 2B529F838A169766D8-807E

4 Faults Found:
17055 - Cylinder 1 Glow Plug Circuit (Q10) 
            P0671 - 000 - Electrical Fault
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 882 /min
                    Torque: 46.4 Nm
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 14.29 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00101100
                    Temperature: 14.4°C
                    Bin. Bits: 10110000

17056 - Cylinder 2 Glow Plug Circuit (Q11) 
            P0672 - 000 - Electrical Fault
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 882 /min
                    Torque: 46.4 Nm
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 14.29 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00101100
                    Temperature: 14.4°C
                    Bin. Bits: 10110000

17057 - Cylinder 3 Glow Plug Circuit (Q12) 
            P0673 - 000 - Electrical Fault
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 882 /min
                    Torque: 46.4 Nm
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 14.29 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00101100
                    Temperature: 14.4°C
                    Bin. Bits: 10110000

17058 - Cylinder 4 Glow Plug Circuit (Q13) 
            P0674 - 000 - Electrical Fault
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 882 /min
                    Torque: 46.4 Nm
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 14.29 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00101100
                    Temperature: 14.4°C
                    Bin. Bits: 10110000

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK70.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 379 P
   Component: ASR FRONT MK70      0105  
   Coding: 0017025
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 3F8ADBD36E6E1BC664-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
   Part No: 1Z0 907 044 H
   Component: ClimatronicPQ35 084 0305  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3B72AFC37A7607E648-806E

1 Fault Found:
00229 - Refrigerant Pressure 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 E    HW: 3C0 937 049 E
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H37 1002  
   Revision: 00H37000    Serial number: 00000003909608
   Coding: 418A0F030004140000110D000000000000087F075C
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 2B529F838A169766D8-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1Z2 955 119 A  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer SK351  012  0401  
   Coding: 00065525
   Shop #: WSC 73430  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 T  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
   Component: RegenLichtSens 011  1110  
   Coding: 00208933
   Shop #: WSC 73430  

4 Faults Found:
00156 - Control Circuit for Windshield Washer Pump 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00111001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 31
                    Mileage: 219491 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 13.95 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        ON

02398 - Control Circuit for Rear Windshield Washer Pump 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01111001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 12
                    Reset counter: 246
                    Mileage: 218913 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 14.25 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

02401 - Terminal 75x 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 12
                    Reset counter: 246
                    Mileage: 218913 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 14.25 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

00897 - Windshield Washer Pump (V5) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01111100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 11
                    Reset counter: 246
                    Mileage: 218913 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 14.25 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 R    HW: 1K0 909 605 R
   Component: Q4 AIRBAG VW8   018 2200  
   Revision: 02018000    Serial number: 0038MD07MELO  
   Coding: 0020788
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 3B72AFC37A7607E648-806E

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME0E0C4E15L

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME0F3D640ER

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AF    HW: 1K0 953 549 AF
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul 034 0070  
   Coding: 0000042
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 76E47EF701D49A8E77-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 1Z0 920 910 E
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VD1 3564  
   Coding: 0007401
   Shop #: WSC 23042 067 57207
   VCID: 3566B9FB5C52D196BE-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 F    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: Gateway         H10 0120  
   Revision:   H10       Serial number: 28001061230242
   Coding: 3D3F4740071303
   Shop #: WSC 24064 210 92301
   VCID: 2A5C9A8785EC8E6E23-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No: 1Z0 920 910 E
   Component: IMMO                3564  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3566B9FB5C52D196BE-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 959 701 B
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2346  
   Coding: 0000758
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 3664BEF74154DA8EB7-8062

1 Fault Found:
00943 - Heated Exterior Mirror; Driver Side (Z4) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit

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Address 44: Steering Assist
Cannot be reached

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
   Part No: 1K0 959 433 AK
   Component:    KSG              0401  
   Coding: 01D002007F2D8505485F861004CC
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 79FE75CB30CAF5F61A-802C

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1Z0 951 171 
   Component: Innenraumueberw.008  
   Coding: 00000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000  

   Subsystem 6 - Component:   Sounder No Answer     

   Subsystem 7 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

1 Fault Found:
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 959 702 B
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2346  
   Coding: 0000758
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 377AB3F3465E2386AC-8062

1 Fault Found:
00944 - Heated Exterior Mirror; Passenger Side (Z5) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Z0 035 161 B    HW: 1Z0 035 161 B
   Component: Radio FO3       013 0028  
   Revision: 00013000    Serial number: SKZ7Z3F0112474
   Coding: 0000402
   Shop #: WSC 24064 210 92301
   VCID: 2D56919BB4029956C6-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 703 E
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2435  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 326C82E7AD3CC6AE9B-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 69: Trailer
Cannot be reached

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 704 E
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2435  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 336287E35226CFA690-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 1Z0-919-283.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Z0 919 283 B    HW: 1Z0 919 283 B
   Component: Parkhilfe 4-Kan H04 0020  
   Coding: 0010001
   Shop #: WSC 24064 210 92301
   VCID: 3D76A1DB646209D676-8068

No fault code found.

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Multiple fault codes there.

 

If would suggest a control module fault somewhere.

 

Don't underestimate a failing battery though. They are well documented as causing some very strange (and unlikely) electrical faults, even if the car starts well.

You should update your VCDS version.

 

At a guess, I'd start by trying to solve this bit:

Quote

02401 - Terminal 75x 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit

 

Another user replaced a relay which seems to have solved it:

 

  • Author

Ok thanks guys, I don't think it's a battery problem, the battery is less than a year old and is a Bosch 5 year guarantee one, but always have a open mind. I see that the faults all lie with the bcm, and I have always fancied having the options of having things like cornering lights etc but my bcm isn't a 30 byte one, so I ordered a AJ bcm from eBay, so maybe that will help.

At least check the relay before trying to replace the BCM otherwise there are likely to be more issues rather than less...

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