Hi everyone,

 

I'm really happy to have found this forum. I hope you might be able to shed some light on the quoestions I'm facing.

 

 

I must admit I'm very tempted to get myself a 2nd hand yeti. Whre I live there are currently two models with 1.2tsi, 190000km, 1st owner, regularly serviced. 

All in all that sounde fine to me but as I was investigating tsi motors I was  reading a lot of negative comments regarding their longevity. If I am going by those, buying a 1.2tsi with 190k is an absolute no-go.

 

What do you say?

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Which country are you in?

Is it a manual or a DSG?

& When was it built as there can be issues with 1.2 TSI from before 2012.  Timing Chain Tensioners.

 

Regular servicing @ 118,000 miles / 190,000 km might just  be Oil & Filter changes and look see.

Brake fluid changes should have been done if to schedule and spark plugs at least a couple of times & maybe a Service Campaign action.

 

Best check just what servicing has been done and if pre 2012 has the Timing chain and tensioner kit upgrade been done.

Slovenia / manual / 2012

I’d be thinking that I paid so little for it I’m happy with the risk.

It would need to be cheap.

190,000 km's is 118,000 miles.

 

2012 means its 7 years old, so  roughly a 17,000 mile annual mileage.

 

This should mean a minimum of 1 oil and oil filter change per year, assuming it is set to variable servicing. If it's been on fixed service intervals then even better.

 

There is no reason a petrol / TSI engine shouldn't last as long as an equivalent diesel, as long as it's been looked after and had regular fresh oil.

 

It's rare for any engine to fail these days, it almost always the peripheral components i.e. turbo, EGR, DPF, catalytic converter etc. which are common across most engine types.

 

How much is it? Does it have documented service history?

They're eur 6.000

Both from the first owner, both (supposedly) regularly serviced at the official service with proven history.

 

If this is the case, are tsi engines not any more susceptible to failure than regular petrol engines?

27 minutes ago, Que said:

If this is the case, are tsi engines not any more susceptible to failure than regular petrol engines?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbo_fuel_stratified_injection

The problem with the early tsi is a batch were made with under strength timing chains which had a tendency to stretch; initially a bit noisier, then sudden catastrophic failure when the chain jumped a tooth or three and pistons hit valves. From what I have read typically at around 50 to 60k miles

 

At the mileage of yours it either didn't have one of this bad batch, has been lucky to date, or has been upgraded with a replacement chain.

 

As long as it has an uprated or sound timing chain it should go on for many more years.

 

Later cars were changed to a timing belt and donmot suffer from this risk.

Motorreviewer.com states ...

 

The average lifespan of the 1.2 TSI engine is 150,000 miles (250,000 km). 

 

Based on my experience I cannot argue with that.

 

 

150,000 miles (250,000 km) wont do the job, thanks.

Edited 25 December, 20187 yr by Que

4 hours ago, Que said:

150,000 miles (250,000 km) wont do the job, thanks.

 

Average could cover huge range 150,000km (poorly serviced) to 350,000 for well maintained.  But it’s guesswork as a major failure could happen sometime.

 

All vehicles can keep going if you are prepared to replace worn out parts.  

Most either suffer a test failure, or overpriced spares by main dealers which makes it too expensive to continue relative to value of vehicle

Yes my son had a Ford Focus which was excellent bodily and mechanically and had done about 70k miles, but 13 years old. Value perhaps £1k private sale at best with mot.

 

Failed mot on corroded brake pipes, leaking shocks etc. At least £800 to repair at garage.

Just not worth repairing if he had to pay a garage to do it, so part exchanged at £500, towards a car 10 years younger. (And I know he could probably have got £500 off the screen price without the trade in, just made it much easier)

 

However presumably bought at auction, as repaired over several weeks, and not scrapped. Apparently took 3 attempts at repair before went through mot successfully. Probably a project car to work on at a garage when short of work, or DIYer looking for a cheap car?