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Hi all,

 

I'm seriously considering a Kodaiq sportline (with additional front parking sensors, and maybe the upgraded speakers). Most likely 2.0 150 diesel.

 

One dealer said 3-4 months delivery time, the other said 6 months ("I'd rather give you good news you are getting it sooner, than bad news it's been delayed")!

 

Anyone else ordered recently? What did you get told?

 

Also ... anyone thought about (or discussed with dealer) any impact of Brexit? (I know - I'm sorry!)

I'm guessing we won't be leaving in March ... but if we did ... there's a chance before the car hits our shores it might get delayed somewhere, and/or have some sort of WTO import duties put on it? I guess if I've signed with the dealer than it'll be over to them to pay any extra fees, as I'll have an agreed price?

 

Possibly not on price, I don't think the basic price can be changed, but generally small print allows changes in VAT, car tax etc if the Government amends it.  

Don't think import tax or currency fluctuations can change for open orders (but could change price list for new orders going forward)

 

A bigger question might be how long the factory decide to delay building UK spec cars (they have plenty of other markets) and could stop building UK spec for a few weeks, rumours have circulated that if we go towards a no deal then will effectively suspend building UK spec from early March as no one knows what the new import paperwork that will be required is. 

 

I think the dealer saying 6 months, but might be less, is factoring this in more realistically, and this seems fair.

 

Did the other dealer say approx. 3-4 months, or 3-4 months (effectively quoted a minimum and maximum time)

 

 

 

Edited by SurreyJohn

Current delivery times are very much engine and factory option dependant.

 

The 2.0 TDI 150PS was one of the first engines to be WLTP (emissions) approved and have been flowing through with relative ease since the summer.

 

The petrol engines (1.5 and 2.0 TSI) have, and in the case of the 2.0 TSI, continue to offer the longest lead times.

 

Anything less than 16-20 weeks for a factory order is good going.

 

Edited by silver1011

I ordered a Kodiaq on the 20th December and was quoted an estimated 16 weeks to delivery, and with currently a provisional build week 9 - ie w/c 25th February, that's broadly on track.

 

With the factory reliant on just-in-time delivery of thousands of individual components according to each individual specification of vehicle ordered, clearly there may be times when schedules have to be revised if there's any delay from suppliers, be it alcantara seats,, heated windscreens etc. or just delays resultant on severe weather. 

 

Both your dealers are quoting you correctly, one perhaps being more pragmatic as regards Brexit. No-one knows with certainty what might or might not happen tomorrow. Once you've ordered you can only have faith that your dealer, SUK, and the factory are all doing their best to get your order delivered to you as quickly as possible.

 

Thereafter - que sera, sera.  

Blimey times really must be bad if the dealers are quoting 4-6 months, every time I've ordered a Skoda (3 On the trot) I've been blatantly lied to (not necessarily by the salesman but by Skoda generally) that it would be about 3 months and it's turned out to be 6. So if they're quoting 6, don't be surprised if it's longer, their delivery timeline is a joke.

 

Still, something to look forward to...!

20 hours ago, zedzed_uk said:

Hi all,

 

I'm seriously considering a Kodaiq sportline (with additional front parking sensors, and maybe the upgraded speakers). Most likely 2.0 150 diesel.

 

One dealer said 3-4 months delivery time, the other said 6 months ("I'd rather give you good news you are getting it sooner, than bad news it's been delayed")!

 

Anyone else ordered recently? What did you get told?

 

Also ... anyone thought about (or discussed with dealer) any impact of Brexit? (I know - I'm sorry!)

I'm guessing we won't be leaving in March ... but if we did ... there's a chance before the car hits our shores it might get delayed somewhere, and/or have some sort of WTO import duties put on it? I guess if I've signed with the dealer than it'll be over to them to pay any extra fees, as I'll have an agreed price?

 

 

No Deal could mean a 10% car duty, based on the import price which is probably around 70% of the RRP.

 

UK has not issued its intended WTO tariff levels but it is assumed that the UK will replicate the EUs tariffs at least until it decides on it own tariff schedule.

 

Whether SUK come to you for the extra 7% or so is up to them.  I have been the customs officer for one of the car brands and since involved with customs declaration for another marque. 

The German Government will certainly want no interruption to the Motor Manufacturing Industries incomes from the export of vehicles into the UK.

VW Group, Daimler-Benz & BMW need vehicles in and money paid back, and the Financial Establishments do as well since it is not just about vehicles it is about money lending and pyramid selling / banking.

If they can get those car ferries across the seas and the vehicles to dealership then good and well, if not it is not just manufacturers & banks in trouble so will be some dealerships and brokers. Also the British Treasury so the UK public / tax payers.

http://bbc.co.uk/news/business-46875113

 

Edited by Skoffski

Another though ,car purchase.

 

 

 

Buy from the tens of thousands already in the UK and Unregistered or ones at sea and about to land in the UK might be a good idea.

 

That is other than any VW Group 1.5 TSI's until VW Group assure you in writing that if they sell you a duff one they will take it back with no quibbles.

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1 hour ago, vrskeith said:

Another though ,car purchase.

 

<video link removed>

 

 

Ok ... this this video is semi-click bait.  It just asked the questions (similar to the ones I asked above) and says they will be answered in a series of videos next week!

Oh, and also a request in the video for comments ... but youtube for the video is restricted mode so no comments can be made.

Strange.

 

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7 minutes ago, Skoffski said:

Buy from the tens of thousands already in the UK and Unregistered or ones at sea and about to land in the UK might be a good idea.

 

That is other than any VW Group 1.5 TSI's until VW Group assure you in writing that if they sell you a duff one they will take it back with no quibbles.

 

I'm after a Kodaiq Sportline version.  How many Kodiaq sportlines are there for sale on autotrader, within 100 miles of my location (near Edinburgh)?  0, Zilch, none :-(

 

Also ... the ones that are for sale (nationally, with low-ish miles) are actually more expensive than the price for a new one from CarWow or OrangeWheels.  It's almost like the dealers know that used Kodiaqs are at a premium and so they are keeping the prices high ;-)

Edited by zedzed_uk

@zedzed_uk

Exactly why you need to use a Premium Rate Phone line.

 

Call Derren Brown.  Best chance of getting an answer.

 

PS, 

sometime you need to travel to get cars.

£1 Mega Bus or cheap flight out of Edinburgh to collect cars. 

Edited by Skoffski

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9 minutes ago, Skoffski said:

@zedzed_uk

Exactly why you need to use a Premium Rate Phone line.

 

Call Derren Brown.  Best chance of getting an answer.

 

PS, 

sometime you need to travel to get cars.

£1 Mega Bus or cheap flight out of Edinburgh to collect cars. 

@Skoffski

 

I hear you ... but I do have a trade-in, and also a gamble to buy a used car without seeing it.  I'd sell my car privately first, but that's also a gamble because I need it to cart the kids around, and so I can't really sell first and buy a few weeks later (well .. hire car I guess ... but that's just more cash out on the "Used" side, versus ordering new and waiting for it to turn up at dealer.  But .. as this thread started off ... Brexit may "fork" with that!).

 

Also .. car prices do seem to be a little higher in Central Scotland (vs. North England). totally subjective - no data to back that up - but seems that way to me.  Supply and demand I guess ... but I do wonder if there's a business model there ... importing punters from Scotland to (say) Manchester to buy a used car.  I'm sure there are a million reasons why that wouldn't work ... but it has crossed my mind a few times ... bringing sellers and buyers together can be a decent business model.  Or some kind of independent assessment of the car condition, so that you know you're not getting a dealer saying "it's mint" ... knowing that if you then drive 300 miles to pick it up you're not likely to quibble over a few minor chips or interior stratches and scrapes.  Anyway .. I'm rambling now ... :-) 

 

Sorry i thought you wanted a New Car and this was the point of the thread.

 

If car prices are more expensive in Central Scotland maybe go North to Perth or Aberdeen then.  

On 18/01/2019 at 17:17, Skoffski said:

Sorry i thought you wanted a New Car and this was the point of the thread.

 

If car prices are more expensive in Central Scotland maybe go North to Perth or Aberdeen then.  

 

Just don't go to Inverness - South Sea Bubble for prices (sorry - you need to be a certain age for that to make sense).

 

Bill :)

  • 1 month later...
On 15/01/2019 at 11:13, Arkaig said:

 

I ordered a Kodiaq on the 20th December and was quoted an estimated 16 weeks to delivery, and with currently a provisional build week 9 - ie w/c 25th February, that's broadly on track.

 

 

With my build week now confirmed as BW8, ie this week, I'm still broadly on track for delivery within the estimated 16 weeks. 

Edited by Arkaig

  • 3 weeks later...

I'm collecting mine this week - so a total of 12 weeks from order to delivery, well within the dealer's original estimate of 16 weeks.

On 18/01/2019 at 17:17, Skoffski said:

Sorry i thought you wanted a New Car and this was the point of the thread.

 

If car prices are more expensive in Central Scotland maybe go North to Perth or Aberdeen then.  

Forget Aberdeen, prices are similar if not higher than Edinburgh.  Oil industry means dealers think everyone has loads of money.

They did have 'loads of money' or enough did.

John Clark asking prices are not What you have to pay prices.

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