Posted here as I recall there were some people who moved from the Superb to a Kodiaq, didn't like it, and returned to the Superb.

 

The lease on my Superb runs out at the end of the year, and although early I'm giving a little thought as to what the next vehicle might be. I love the Superb, but as a previous 4X4 driver who misses the ride height and moderate off-road ability, I'm toying with the idea of moving to a Kodiaq.

 

Those who returned to the Superb (fairly quickly as I recall) - what was it you didn't like about the Kodiaq? I'd be grateful for any feedback (good and bad) from those who made the switch....

@Boxerdog1 might have or possibly the Karaoq...

1 hour ago, penguin17 said:

@Boxerdog1 might have or possibly the Karaoq...

Was a Karoq 1.5tsi DSG Edition .... swapped back to a 280 Sportline within 4 weeks ,  basically a temporary bout of insanity !!       

Edited 27 January, 20197 yr by Boxerdog1

6 hours ago, Boxerdog1 said:

Was a Karoq 1.5tsi DSG Edition .... swapped back to a 280 Sportline within 4 weeks ,  basically a temporary bout of insanity !!       

 

Hmmm. The Karoq was never going to be on my list, especially the 1.5... 

 

I wonder if I've imagined that one or two had made the change and then swiftly come back?

 

 

Edited 27 January, 20197 yr by CheshireBumpkin

You pay more, gain a few inches in height, enjoy a nice interior, but suffer poorer everyday economy and more ponderous handling.

 

Tried one before I bought my Superb. Perfectly decent, get why people go for it, but it’s a Superb on stilts. That’s it.

 

That said the market popularity of SUVs means it might perform better on a PCP.

8 hours ago, MorrisOx said:

You pay more, gain a few inches in height, enjoy a nice interior, but suffer poorer everyday economy and more ponderous handling.

 

Tried one before I bought my Superb. Perfectly decent, get why people go for it, but it’s a Superb on stilts. That’s it.

 

That said the market popularity of SUVs means it might perform better on a PCP.

 

May be the RS version and its 245HP should lower this impression  ...

 

Personnaly I've hesitated, but I've chosen the Superb MkIII, because the Kodiaq can't stand 3 baby seats in a row, whereas the Superb does.

I also thought about slighlty higher fuel consumption (due to height) and more expensive tyres prices when you need to change them... 

Edited 28 January, 20197 yr by Bap33

In the purchase process I've driven the Karoq and the Superb back to back. 

 

First ride was in the Karoq which was perfectly fine. Comfortable in the city and okay on the motorway. (for the lenght of the testdrive)

Arrived back at the dealer and immediately hopped in the Superb... After 100 meters I was already sure that it was the Superb over the Karoq.

Seating position and interior space (width) is a big difference. For me a lower seating position is preferred and makes for a more involving ride.

 

Quite happy with my S3 hatchback 1.5 TSI. 

11 hours ago, MorrisOx said:

You pay more, gain a few inches in height, enjoy a nice interior, but suffer poorer everyday economy and more ponderous handling.

 

Tried one before I bought my Superb. Perfectly decent, get why people go for it, but it’s a Superb on stilts. That’s it.

 

That said the market popularity of SUVs means it might perform better on a PCP.

 

You've pretty much described exactly why I'm interested. As a long-term 4X4 driver, I'm quite accustomed to and prepared for a more wallowy ride and poorer fuel economy. I love my Superb, but being without a 4X4 for a couple of years has shown me how much I relied on those few extra inches of ride height and moderate off-road ability. I've no interest in the Karoq as it's too small for my needs, but if the Kodiaq is indeed a Superb on stilts it may just be the perfect solution for me. I really don't want an over-priced identikit Land Rover if I can avoid it.

Funnily enough I was in a Skoda dealer this morning dropping off my car for a service.  While waiting on my lift, I had a wander around the showroom and had a good look at a Kodiaq VRS.  Looks mighty impressive I have to say.  Very nice inside, pimped up nicely without being garish, great space in rear and in boot.  Glass roof, 20" wheels.

 

£43k new to buy.

 

Sat in it and seemed a nice high position.

Edited 28 January, 20197 yr by Mickey43

I have my Superb on a 3 year lease.. I have 3 kids - 10, 7 and 15 months, so the back seat is full.. the 10 year old gets stuffed into the centre as the other two are in booster / baby seats.. so I think it will be a Kodiaq after this purely for the 3rd row.. will miss the Superb though.. but it's over 2 years away so long time coming..

8 hours ago, CheshireBumpkin said:

 

You've pretty much described exactly why I'm interested. As a long-term 4X4 driver, I'm quite accustomed to and prepared for a more wallowy ride and poorer fuel economy. I love my Superb, but being without a 4X4 for a couple of years has shown me how much I relied on those few extra inches of ride height 

Sounds like someone is trying to justify a 280 L&K Superb (purely for the AWD of course...) 

 

Go for it Bumpkin - you know you want to. (So do I...)

 

Having run a Superb estate for almost 6 years before my current Bear, I’d say the Superb has more square metres of floor space and more rear leg room.

 

I wish I’d had one many years ago for my own 3 kids, but now I’m on grandchildren duties, so my needs are different.

 

To state the obvious, you can’t filll all the seats and take huge amounts of luggage.

 

When solo or 2 up, both the Superb and Kodiaq are cavernous load luggers.  Mini removals and tip runs a speciality.

I had 7 internal doors (6’6”) in mine recently.

 

While 3 kids can still fit in row 2, all is well and lots of junk can fit in the boot.

 

In the Kodiaq, I sometimes spread 5 or 6 bodies across all 3 rows just to give everyone more elbow room. But that’s when you don’t have much baggage. Multiple baby seats is the killer - and main deciding factor for choosing a car.

 

My daughter previously had an S Max that could take 3 isofix chairs in row 2.  Neat.

 

Nowadays I usually only need 1 baby seat as the bigger kids can belt in normally. I think the oldest (11) will actually outgrow the row 3 mini seats in the near future, but I don’t have to carry them long distances (yet).

 

I don’t know how I ever dragged 3 little ones hundreds of miles to a French campsite in an Escort hatch in the 80s. No roof box or trailer. Or AC.

 

Unless you can envisage a real need for 6 or 7 seats, I’d stick with a Superb.

 

But it’s also nice to have a change for the sake of it.

Meanwhile I’ve had the opportunity to druve both a Karoq and a Kodiaq, however not really back to back...

 

From what I’ve noticed is that the ride quality in the Kodiaq is noticeably better and more relaxed than in a Karoq. Could be due to the real axle set-up.

 

Anyone had similar experience? 

7 hours ago, Mickey43 said:

Funnily enough I was in a Skoda dealer this morning dropping off my car for a service.  While waiting on my lift, I had a wander around the showroom and had a good look at a Kodiaq VRS.  Looks mighty impressive I have to say.  Very nice inside, pimped up nicely without being garish, great space in rear and in boot.  Glass roof, 20" wheels.

 

£43k new to buy.

 

Sat in it and seemed a nice high position.

 

£43k? Forty. Three. Thousand. For a Skoda.

 

I mean, I like the cut of their jib, I’m on my second, but £43 grand is bonkers money. Fastest car to reach Depreciation Street in the Skoda range.

3 hours ago, BriskodaJeff said:

Sounds like someone is trying to justify a 280 L&K Superb (purely for the AWD of course...) 

 

Go for it Bumpkin - you know you want to. (So do I...)

 

 

Haha! I'd love one, but I need a touch more ground clearance I fear! How does the 280 handle a muddy field? 

3 hours ago, BoxerBoy said:

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I don’t know how I ever dragged 3 little ones hundreds of miles to a French campsite in an Escort hatch in the 80s. No roof box or trailer. Or AC.

[...]

 

Probably because baby seats at that time didn't have Jonny Wilkinson's shoulders width...    

 

 

10 hours ago, MorrisOx said:

 

£43k? Forty. Three. Thousand. For a Skoda.

 

I mean, I like the cut of their jib, I’m on my second, but £43 grand is bonkers money. Fastest car to reach Depreciation Street in the Skoda range.

 

Oh I know!

 

An ex demo would be maybe 32k or something?

How many are 'Buying' a Kodiaq vRS with their own cash money or a loan to buy it to own and be selling sometime?

Finance / Lease Companies / VW Finance are most likely to be the owners / buyers of them then renting them for a couple or 3 years.

5 hours ago, Skoffski said:

How many are 'Buying' a Kodiaq vRS with their own cash money or a loan to buy it to own and be selling sometime?

Finance / Lease Companies / VW Finance are most likely to be the owners / buyers of them then renting them for a couple or 3 years.

 

Very few, to be fair. But whether it’s list price or lease cost, at that level the Kodiaq is over the edge of what the brand is designed to deliver.

 

The Skoda compromise boils down to a decent platform which has had some of the premium look/feel specced out. Not convinced it’s all been put back even in a Kodiaq vRS, but even if it has there are more logical brands to put your money into at that price.

300 coming to the UK to be first registered and using up some Bi-Turbo diesels before discontinued gets Social Media / Forum & Magazine / Press attention.

They are click bait and catch the eye at Dealerships.

Might be a Halo Model or just one to aspire to pinching to ram raid with. They already look like they ram raided a Halfords.

More show and not a lot of go with a 240ps Elephant.     

The vRS badging is taken the pith of with Skoda, like Sportline or Monte Carlo.   

At least the Superb gets a 280ps, but then again a whale of a car.

The Motorsport Success & Heritage stuff seems to get lost in Translation.  Small, quick good handling cars.  & Skoda gets to do 110ps with a Fabia.

Edited 29 January, 20197 yr by Skoffski

If you think the market for an expensive high powered big SUV albeit this is a Skoda is limited, it will be worse if they put a petrol in it. 

 

Superb 280 is in its own class with regards to performance, equipment, size, and price ratio. Nothing out there new or used competing against it. 

 

Same for the Kodiaq but I think the list price is a wee too high.