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Confidently I took my car in for it's second MOT today.  (2015 190BHP DSG 94K on the clock).  It failed.  Both rear tyres although they had a very healthy visible  tread pattern, were worn down to the metal on the extreme inner edge. The problem is that I check them every few weeks by running my hand over the tread and feeling the depth.  I also check them for correct inflation.  Being low down at the rear unless you either raise the car or get down and dirty this extreme wear was not visible.  I had them replaced same day and of course it passed.

 

I changed the rear pads last September at 72K and no poor tyre wear was apparent.  Clearly the tracking is out at the rear so I have booked it in for 4 wheel alignment.

 

Anyone else experienced such extreme wear at the rear (of the car!)?

 

I have learnt a lesson here.  Check the whole width of the tyres!

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Confidently I took my car in for it's second MOT.  (2015 190BHP DSG 94K on the clock).  It failed.  Both rear tyres although they had a very healthy visible  tread pattern, were worn down to the metal on the extreme inner edge. The problem is that I check them every few weeks by running my hand over the tread and feeling the depth.  I also check them for correct inflation.  Being low down at the rear unless you either raise the car or get down and dirty this extreme wear was not visible.  I had them replaced same day and of course it passed.

 

I changed the rear pads last September at 72K and no wear was apparent.  Clearly the tracking is out at the rear so I have booked it in for 4 wheel alignment.

Have you been carrying lots of weight in the rear? (People and stuff)

Make of tires, and how many miles on them?

Check the geometry.

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No BigJohn, nothing out of the ordinary carried in the car.  And TooTall, the make was Michelin Pilot with less than 25K.  I am convinced it was nothing to do with the make.  Both rears had at least 4 mil tread on them except for the very extreme inner edge.  Both left & right rears had exactly the same tread pattern and aggressive wear on the extreme inner tread.  Hopefully the 4 wheel alignment will cure the fault.  But I wonder why it has suddenly happened after over 90K miles on the car.

I had same problem, but not with a Skoda. Once the tyres were off, they looked very scary!

I had a Vectra SRi estate that used to destroy rear tyres in this way. Had 2 alignments done, but in the end it was just an artifact of the suspension design and me driving it about fully laden. The first time, before I was aware of the issue, the tyres had 4mm tread on the outside and wire showing on the inside. As you say, scary! Thankfully the tyres were relatively inexpensive.

 

 

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Known issue with Mk2 Octavias. Inner edge wear due to incorrect alignment.

 

Corrected with updated alignment values, but only after it had often trashed perfectly good tyres of course!

Duplicate posts merged.

Chek the Geometry. The rear axle can be tuned if necessary. I had the geometry tuned on my ex Superb Mk2. ;) 

I asked about weight as my Superb II scrubbed the inner edge of the original Continentals when driving through France VERY fully laden with people and stuff, the tyres had done over 30k miles though by then! No sign of this sort of wear since ( now Michelin CrossClimates) but I haven't carried two large(6ft 4" + 6ft 7") in the rear over a large distance.

 

The independent rear suspension has a lot more negative camber when heavily loaded. A good example of this is when you see a badly lowered/slammed car, with independant rear, where someone has swapped just out the springs - you can really see the rear wheel leaning in at the top. 

 

If it is doing this with normal load then as mentioned above you need a 4 wheel geometry check/adjustment.

 

Superb III has full independent rear suspension and AFAIK the Camber and Toe settings are fully adjustable. Either of these could be the problem. Could be one of the adjuster bolts has come loose or you have had an incident like hitting a kerb that's knocked it out of adjustment.

 

Interestingly I had a very similar experience with Michelin Cross climates on one of our fabias, (non adjustable rear suspension). No problems brought up with 4 wheel alignment. Also with some very strange uneven wear patterns and premature cracking. My thoughts are Michelin are not the great tyre everyone thinks. Also seen problems with Goodyear tyres across our cars which look like manufacturing faults. Won't use them again.

 

Now standardised on Vredestein Quattrac 5 across our small fleet with no further problems and great life too.

 

I had exactly the same problem with my Superb, the rear tyre inner edges (P7) were worn through to the metal plies and one tyre had punctured in spite of the tread across the middle and the outer edges (which I checked regularly) being fine -- only the inner inch or so was bad, it almost looked like somebody had just ground the rubber away at an angle. Car is on PCH with full maintenance including tyres, I persuaded Skoda to replace the tyres and do pay for a full alignment -- they originally tried the "you must have hit a kerb" excuse but gave in when I pointed out that doing this in exactly the same way for both rear tyres was kind of unlikely...

I've had a quick look at the above posts/profiles and it appears this is happening (more?) with the estates?  

 

I've got a set of Vredestein Quatrac 5 tyres that were fitted across two Superb Sportlines: 

 

1.  Covered 8K miles on a 150 TDI hatch (FWD, MY17)

2.  Covered 14K miles on a 280 TSI hatch (AWD, MY18)

 

I know I had already done this when I got new tyres fitted but I've just re-checked the Vredesteins and tread wear is even across the belt with just under 7mm of tread left on both rears and just under 6mm of tread left on both fronts.   I did need to have the alignment checked and corrected on the 1st car but that was done within 2 days of being collected and on the stock P7 tyres.  

 

When I got rid of the P7's, they had covered 10k miles and had 4mm of tread on the fonts and 5mm on the rears, wear was even across the belt.  They were also...shi7.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, IanJD said:

I had exactly the same problem with my Superb, the rear tyre inner edges (P7) were worn through to the metal plies and one tyre had punctured in spite of the tread across the middle and the outer edges (which I checked regularly) being fine -- only the inner inch or so was bad, it almost looked like somebody had just ground the rubber away at an angle. Car is on PCH with full maintenance including tyres, I persuaded Skoda to replace the tyres and do pay for a full alignment -- they originally tried the "you must have hit a kerb" excuse but gave in when I pointed out that doing this in exactly the same way for both rear tyres was kind of unlikely...

Car almost always lightly laden, here's a photo -- loads of tread all the way from the outer edge to maybe 80% of the width (see wear bars), then the inner shoulder is completely missing 😞

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Ugly

This is all sounding, and looking, very familiar! Not a new issue either, which is all the more frustrating that they haven't solved it yet...
 

This may help for a bit of background:

 

I had the same with my car, which has Hankook Kinergy-Eco tyres (215/60 R16 95V).  The tread was generally OK aside from the inner edges, so they were replaced at 72k (they were factory fitted).  For reference my tyres have lasted generally well as I do  lot of long dual carriageway driving so don't wear them out - fronts have lasted on average 45k or so each time, so I don't know if they would have gone earlier than 72k.  Didn't get anything adjusted on the car though, and not planning on still having car at 140k...

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