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hi guys, is it possible to use just 2 flat end screwdriver to take the coil out? ive read somewhere that i need to get the proper tool. i have watched this video and this guy just uses screw drivers to take them out.

 

i dont understand why he needed to take it all apart though as once you take one coil pack out then just take the spark plug out and put new one in then put the coil pack back on cant you?

 

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27 minutes ago, froggy8 said:

hi guys, is it possible to use just 2 flat end screwdriver to take the coil out? ive read somewhere that i need to get the proper tool. i have watched this video and this guy just uses screw drivers to take them out.

i dont understand why he needed to take it all apart though as once you take one coil pack out then just take the spark plug out and put new one in then put the coil pack back on cant you?

 

 

You can just use screwdrivers with caution, a proper tool just lessens the chance of damaging a coil pack.

 

Not sure I follow the second part of the question though, take what apart?

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6 minutes ago, Tech1e said:

 

You can just use screwdrivers with caution, a proper tool just lessens the chance of damaging a coil pack.

 

Not sure I follow the second part of the question though, take what apart?

thank you, i will take extra care when i take them out with screw drivers.

 

when that guy took the coil pack out with 2 screw drivers, he took the coil pack apart (the part that goes on top of the spark plug) and put it on the table. he does that with all 3 coil. just thinking why he couldnt just put 1 spark plug in at a time then go to the second coil pack?

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You mean he unplugged the electrical connector from each coilpack.  

No need, as you say, just lay them to one side on top of the engine, still connected.

 

It makes no sense to me either; the only times I ever pulled all 4 plugs at once I was checking/adjusting valve clearances and/or ignition timing as well.

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2 minutes ago, Wino said:

You mean he unplugged the electrical connector from each coilpack.  

No need, as you say, just lay them to one side on top of the engine, still connected.

 

thank you wino, just got me confused as why he did that. i used to have a tigra and astra and it wasnt like this, they were all set of 4 coil pack joined together and all i had to do was take the whole coil pack off and you could see the spark plugs, was very easy.

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Just be careful not to strain the wiring loom as the coilpacks go in and out.  Note that he releases the clips that hold the loom down in a few places first, so it can move with the packs.

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Just now, Wino said:

Just be careful not to strain the wiring loom as the coilpacks go in and out.  Note that he releases the clips that hold the loom down in a few places first, so it can move with the packs.

yep i did just that, i went out earlier to try change my spark plugs. i released the 2 or 3 clips but i got stuck at trying to take the coil out, it wouldnt budge at all so that is why i went on here to ask.

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I vaguely remember reading on another forum that if you were to turn the engine over (like you might for a compression test) with a coilpack out, but still connected, it can kill the coilpack. Not sure if that's true or not, but if so, maybe that was why he did it that way, as a precaution.

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2 minutes ago, Wino said:

I vaguely remember reading on another forum that if you were to turn the engine over (like you might for a compression test) with a coilpack out, but still connected, it can kill the coilpack. Not sure if that's true or not, but if so, maybe that was why he did it that way, as a precaution.

yeah could be, just playing it safe really isnt it?

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15 hours ago, UrbanPanzer said:

I would use the correct tool, they are not expensive and make the job a breeze and if your going to keep the vehicle you will use it again.

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/FreeTec-Puller-Extractor-Ignition-Removal/dp/B079FMZMRR/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=VAG+coil+pack+tool&qid=1568054777&s=gateway&sr=8-1

 

 

thank you, that is very cheap. so stupid question, is that link ok for me to buy now?

Sorry....not sure what you mean ?

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Just now, UrbanPanzer said:

Sorry....not sure what you mean ?

sorry, i mean can i just but the one you just linked?

Just to check, what year is it and engine in your Fabia

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11 hours ago, UrbanPanzer said:

Just to check, what year is it and engine in your Fabia

2008 1.2 petrol

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12 hours ago, UrbanPanzer said:

Just to check, what year is it and engine in your Fabia

i went and bought it anyway as it said its suitable for vw. skoda is owned by vw so im guessing its ok.

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Looks like your engine code is BZG @froggy8, just for future reference. See table here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Škoda_Fabia#Engines_2

I've inferred this is what yours is from the 70bhp given in your profile.

As you can see '2008 1.2 petrol' covers 2 different engines, with one being 6-valve, the other 12-valve (twin cam)

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2 minutes ago, Wino said:

Looks like your engine code is BZG @froggy8, just for future reference. See table here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Škoda_Fabia#Engines_2

I've inferred this is what yours is from the 70bhp given in your profile.

As you can see '2008 1.2 petrol' covers 3 or 4 different engines, some fundamentally different from others in terms of number of cylinders, turbo vs non etc..

do you think the tools i have just purchased is suitable for my engine?

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Probably, as there's more than one tool in there, isn't there?

I think it will be the left-hand one in the Amazon picture.

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By the way, don't be surprised if you have to pull rather hard on those tools, if the coils haven't been out for some time.  

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thank you wino, cant wait to change my spark plugs. been over a year now.

Just be happy/satisfied that the tool you will be using has a Tee bar handle, I bought that kit for much more money years ago with a Laser Tools label on it, well youngest daughter bought it for me as a Father's Day present or Birthday present and did not cough up the cash!!  I need to use the puller without the Tee bar handle for my S4 3.0TFSI plugs and you need to be very manly to be able to get them out using just one finger!

 

Edit:- BTW, Wino is correct, you use the left hand side puller for these coils, same as the 1.4 engines of that age used.

 

Another Edit:- as you have watched that video, I'd think a few times before applying any paste etc to the new plugs, I've used anti-seize paste in the past, but now I just try to keep/made the threads in the alloy heads clean and use a torque wrench when fitting plugs, suggested/advised torque is 30Nm, if you looked closely at the guy refitting these plugs, I don't think that he used a torque wrench but did not use the full length of the ratchet handle when nipping these plugs up, some no mega force required - if in doubt always use a torque wrench.

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awesome, was bit concerned if i bought the wrong ones.

1 minute ago, froggy8 said:

awesome, was bit concerned if i bought the wrong ones.

 

Watch out, I've just gone and edited that posting unfortunately - just making sure that you have read the final version, that is all!

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