Can anyone please give me some advise on turbo timers I HAVE A mK1 VrS abd was thinking of getting on fitted,how much would it cost to be fitted? and what is the best type to fit? I have seen pictures of some and I `m not interested in the big boxes I like the look of the thin long 1`s

The only thing I can tell you about turbo timers is not to bother, I mate had one on a car that was stolen once (even though when it was stolen the timer was not active) and the insurers refused to pay for the damage when the car was recovered, they even sent him a bill for the recovery, storage and admin!!

What do u mean the timer was`nt active when stolen!!!

Are you thinking about a tracker?

Agreed I wouldnt bother, this has been discussed many times, after a thrash the turbo should be allowed to cool but so should the brakes etc, its easily achieved by driving "normally" for the last mile or 2. If it was an essential item it would be fitted to some cars as std but I cant think of any, even high performance Porsche Turbos etc that have one as standard

Best turbo timer is common sense.

It's not like you can leave your car unattended in public with the engine running anyway, as it's illegal.

What do u mean the timer was`nt active when stolen!!!

Are you thinking about a tracker?

As in, the car wasn't running with no-body in it. it had been parked over night so the turbo timer wasn't on.

A turbo timer apparently will void your insurance, as it removes any thatcham category that the car or it's alarm might hold.

Can anyone please give me some advise on turbo timers I HAVE A mK1 VrS abd was thinking of getting on fitted,how much would it cost to be fitted? and what is the best type to fit? I have seen pictures of some and I `m not interested in the big boxes I like the look of the thin long 1`s

Here's a long and interesting thread about that exact same subject:

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/octavia/cooling-turbo/50132/?highlight=turbo+timer

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As in' date=' the car wasn't running with no-body in it. it had been parked over night so the turbo timer wasn't on.

A turbo timer apparently will void your insurance, as it removes any thatcham category that the car or it's alarm might hold.[/quote']

Eh?

That makes no sense... a lot of CAT1 alarms have turbo timers built in.

A mate had a Clifford Concept 6 (I think that's what it was anyhoo) and that had a turbo timer as standard. The insurance company didn't just allow it, they insisted on it if he wanted to be covered for theft.

Eh?

That makes no sense... a lot of CAT1 alarms have turbo timers built in.

A mate had a Clifford Concept 6 (I think that's what it was anyhoo) and that had a turbo timer as standard. The insurance company didn't just allow it' date=' they insisted on it if he wanted to be covered for theft.[/quote']I have had a read of this Thatcham document titled Vehicle Security National Listing and I cannot find any Thatcham-approved vehicle security system which includes a turbo timer.

I have had a read of this[/url'] Thatcham document titled Vehicle Security National Listing and I cannot find any Thatcham-approved vehicle security system which includes a turbo timer.

Well it did, and still does (his dad now owns the car). You hold down one of the buttons on the clifford remote, and can then remove the keys. Ran the engine for 2 mins I think, but didn't auto lock, which I thought was just stupid.

Thinking about it, it may have been an optional extra with the alarm (I know he paid a lot for it), but even so it was a clifford alarm with turbo timer.

Just to prove a point... http://www.yourcarparts.co.uk/trolleyed/68/index.htm

Look at the list of features. Turbo timer has a 'Y' next to it.

It's not the 600, but it seems they dont make them any more.

Alex

The Clifford concept 600 was never officially approved for use in the UK - but it had a Turbo Timer.

Just because it wasnt approved it doesnt mean you couldnt buy one. When at uni I had a summer job at the SOund Gallery in High Wycombe and we fitted a fair few of these.

The point is, while you may be able to purchase an alarm with a turbo timer - It WONT have thatcham approval, and if you add a module to an alarm that does have thatcham approval, you will void that status.

I'm sorry but no matter how you try and do it you WILL NOT get a turbo timer fitted in any way shape or form that doesn't affect your insurance, phone them and ask.

Well my mates insurance company insisted he had a cat1 alarm. He told them he had the concept 600 fitted. They accepted it and insured him.

I believe he was insured with CIS, Chris Knott and Adrian Flux during the time he had it.

He didn't hide anything from them.

The clifford concept 600 with intellistart invaididates the thatcham status. As this means the car starts on its own and will be left alone while started/running. Found this out today as there was an offer in motorworld so i went and asked.

I know intellistart isnt a turbo timer (as i know it) but a turbo timer keeps the car running when no one is in the car so in my opinion it shall lose its thatcham status if you have one.

And i think if your car is tuned up etc, i think i would still go for one. Scoobys etc have them when there tunned up, so its good enough for them its more than good enough for skoda's.

And i think if your car is tuned up etc, i think i would still go for one. Scoobys etc have them when there tunned up, so its good enough for them its more than good enough for skoda's.

But what does it do that sitting in the car with the engine idling doesn't do other than from cost money, place your car insurance at risk, and break the law if on a public highway? :confused:

The intelistart is easily set as a turbo timer on the Concept 600. Whilst its not Thatcham approved with Intelistart it is a evry clever system and will turn off the engine if ANY of the alarm sensors or the brake switch are activated.

I want the intelistart as a way of warming up the car in a morning. As my Fabia Vrs is a PD TDI It doesnt like being started and turned off. Long story but as with much advise from my local skoda dealer and others this was a good way of getting the car warmed up. (skoda only advised that i shouldnt keep doing small trips just to note)

I know i could sit in the car for 10mins before i set off but why when theres technology around.

Yes it could be classed as a waste of money but a small amount on a turbo timer is cheaper than a 1K turbo from skoda as my oct vrs wrk m8 found out the hard way.

The Owner's Manual says (in bold print):

Do not warm engine up by running it with vehicle stationary. Drive off straight away.

Yes, but remote starting is pretty cool

Yes, but remote starting is pretty cool

...and now we finally get to the point of the whole thread.

See, even Briskoda gets there in the end

You will also find that if you leave your diesel engine running to warm the car up, when you get in it will still be cold, and the temp gauge will still be on the bottom.

Diesels are now so thermally efficient that they only warm up once actually being driven and under load, so it would be a complete waste of time and money having intellistart fitted - unless you just want to look cool (which is debatable, most people would think the opposite I think).

The need for turbo times is also only a theory dreamed up by people trying to sell products. No manufacturers fit them or recomend them, and they design and make the engines so if they dont know, who does?

I've had many tuned turbocharged cars, and have never had a turbo timer, my theory has always been that if the engine fan isn't on when I park, then the engine isn't particularly hot, if the fan is on i'll wait briefly till it stops, then turn off.

The turbo on a diesel is also relatively low boost, so doesn't actually create that much heat compared to a high boost petrol.

If it's a diesel why not5 get one of the heaters that run off a bit of diesel that you can have plumbed in. They heat the coolant such that the engine is 'pre-warmed' when you do come to start the engine.

That would put even less wear on the engine due to the thing being warmed before you even start it.

I had a clifford concept 600 and it DID NOT have a turbo timer as standard. A turbo timer CAN be fitted at an additional cost which will then invalidate its thatcham approval. As posted its much easier (and safer) to drive 'normally' a couple of miles before you thrash it and afterwards to allow the engine to warm up and turbo to cool down respectively. Just my 2c;)