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ECP Warning Equalled new Throttle body...

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Well here we go...

 

I know this is potentially a unique situation to my 2015 Skoda Fabia (Petrol) but felt I had to share for the potential benefit/awareness of others.

 

This morning I managed to drive to work with an orange ECP warning light. Nothing out of the ordinary at all with the vehicle while physically driving to work.

 

I thought nothing of this and hoped it might be nothing but a mistaken error code alert that would be resolved by turning on the ignition when leaving work.

 

However, this was not the case. I left my work and found that it was increasingly difficult to get the car to consistently stay above 20-30mph in 3rd gear.

 

LUCKILY I managed to get myself to the local garage.

 

I was advised that after a diagnostics test, the result was that the throttle body was needing replaced due to it going into a low performance limp mode which couldn't be resolved by resetting the error code.

 

As the throttle body part is only available from a Skoda dealership, it's gonna cost £410 (before VAT) and another £90 odd (before VAT).

 

Shocked to say the least as I've only owned this car since April 2018!!! 

Welcome.

 

I hope you are safe with that diagnostics of the problem.

As to the part only being available drom a Skoda Dealership, that is nonesense.

 

The part will arrive at the Parts door of a Skoda Dealership, that will be from VW / Skoda. 

maybe TPS.

I take it where the car is can not get the part from TPS.

http://tps.trade

 

Edited by Roottootemoot

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Whooooaaahh!

Firstly it's the EPC light (Electronic power control or something like that) not ECP.  An ECP warning light should be included on the Eurocarparts website to indicate that the sale with apparently huge discounts that looks ever so tempting will still be there tomorrow, and the day after, and the day after that, well always...

 

Which of the three petrol engines listed here does your car have? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Škoda_Fabia#Engines_3

I find it almost impossible to believe that the throttle body is only available genuine from delaerships, but the engine code information will help me prove so.

 

Oftentimes the real problem is a broken wire, rather than a broken component too, so rushing into expensive repairs may benefit the garage far more than you.

 

 

 

 

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Sadly I'm very new to taking notice of the a risk nitty gritty of maintaining a vehicle properly, so my general car knowledge is poor 😂😭 

 

I was surprised to hear that the throttle body part was only available from the dealership (I'm based in Scotland) but I assumed the garage was truthful as they searched for alternative sources while discussing the issue with me.

 

From the engine info link you gave me I believe it's code CHYB based on what little I understood of the chart/table 😂

It could be that your garage is a small outfit and has not bothered to open an account with their local TPS branch - so for them the best place to get the correct part first time will be their local Skoda dealer's parts department.

 

Edit:- have you tried looking around for a local proper VAG Indie Specialist who should be conversant with that car/engine and might sort it out cheaper, out of interest, in case I/others can point you in the direction of that type of VAG Indie localish to you - where are you based roughly?

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Where in Scotland are you?

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For all of you kind generous souls who've commented, I'm based in Helensburgh (west of Scotland). 

OK.

I know 2 of the garages there and have bought cars or looked at cars there.

 

Nothing much i can say other than be sure on that diagnosis you have been given.

Not my local area, but there is a big VAG Indie in Glasgow, and I'm sure there will be smaller ones as well, sometimes you need to travel a bit to get what you want, or just give in and deal with your local dealer!

 

Edit:- this is the one I was meaning, but it seems that there are many many others.      https://mbjarvie.co.uk/vw-garage-glasgow/ 

 

Another Edit:- stuff "vag specialist helensburgh" into Google etc and see if you fancy/trust anyone more local to you, there do seem to be enough.

 

A quick re-visit to Hill House is on the cards for us tomorrow by the way!

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If you are right about the engine code then the part number of the throttle body is 04C133062D, item 8 on this page: https://skoda.7zap.com/en/cz/fabia/fab/2015-797/1/133-133000/

This number will be printed on your current one, so eyeball it and check.

A very quick look online says there are at least two aftermarket suppliers: https://www.autodoc.co.uk/spares-search?keyword=04c133062d

This page suggests that the RRP for a genuine part is £350+VAT https://www.allcarpartsfast.co.uk/vw-audi-seat-skoda/vw-audi-seat-skoda-04c133062d-contr-unit/

Ebay search has a wide selection of them, some secondhand, some new. Cheapest at around £30. https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=04c133062d&rt=nc

 

I really would encourage you to get the car to another garage (good info by other posters above) for a second look, or have a close look at the area yourself. Something like a split/cracked vacuum hose nearby or a broken wire would probably explain your symptoms, both of which might be easily found and cheaply fixed.  Throttle bodies themselves tend to be reliable, I would have no hesitation at all about fitting a secondhand one from a scrapyard to any car I was trying to fix, After excluding all other causes as far as possible.

 

Good luck with it and please let us know the outcome.

Have had problems with the EPC light coming on though the car ran normally, if I turned the ignition off then restarted the car EPC stayed off for a few days then came back on again. Took it to my independent garage they had a look at it and did a diagnostic check nothing definative showed up but they thought it could be Turbo Actuator but it seemed to be working ok and they cleaned up the connections. Car ran normally for about 6 weeks then the EPC light came on then a yellow enging block lit up as well. Took it back to the garage they did a diagnostic test and found turbo actuator seized in turbovane lever. They removed turbo and actuator and freed off seized joint then refitted turbo. 

15 hours ago, JoePeddos said:

Have had problems with the EPC light coming on though the car ran normally, if I turned the ignition off then restarted the car EPC stayed off for a few days then came back on again. Took it to my independent garage they had a look at it and did a diagnostic check nothing definative showed up but they thought it could be Turbo Actuator but it seemed to be working ok and they cleaned up the connections. Car ran normally for about 6 weeks then the EPC light came on then a yellow enging block lit up as well. Took it back to the garage they did a diagnostic test and found turbo actuator seized in turbovane lever. They removed turbo and actuator and freed off seized joint then refitted turbo. 

 

I think that some of these words are wrong, and the reason I'm saying that is, if going by your profile, the car involved was a 1.2TSI Fabia with the 16V engine, the turbo is a fixed vane design, the actuator is for the boost "adjusting".

Hi Run4mo I used the information writen on my invoice. To get it clear in my mind I looked at a couple of videose of how the actuator atatches to the turbo. I see its an arm with a hole at the end that fits over a steel pin that adjusts the  pressure inside the turbo. The mechanic did a little diagram of the arm with the hole at the end I presume this is where it had seized up stopping the arm from moving freely sofar its working OK Joe

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19 hours ago, JoePeddos said:

Hi Run4mo I used the information writen on my invoice. To get it clear in my mind I looked at a couple of videose of how the actuator atatches to the turbo. I see its an arm with a hole at the end that fits over a steel pin that adjusts the  pressure inside the turbo. The mechanic did a little diagram of the arm with the hole at the end I presume this is where it had seized up stopping the arm from moving freely sofar its working OK Joe

 

Maybe a very useless reply, but it might help someone somewhere/sometime, I read in one of these forums that VW Group had changed the linkage design slightly on that boost pressure actuator probably in response to warranty rework costing too much, unfortunately, I have lost where I read that and so the picture of the later improved linkage!!  I must improve, my plan was to grab a picture of the linkage currently on my wife's August 2015 Polo 1.2TSI using a mobile phone to see which version it was!

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