I never knew the tests went into such depth and detail with lane keep assist and auto emergency braking. Pretty impressive!

 

As regards the traditional impact tests - have the requirements gotten stricter since or would a new MK2/MK3 get the same 5 stars it got in the past?

Amazingly strong cars!

 

The front impact test looked like it was easily repairable, I have rebuilt a lot worse but the cost of all the plastic bits and airbags, dashboard (ruptured by airbag deployment) seat belt pretensioners etc would make it prohibitive for a very new vehicle without a donor spares car.

 

Would love to see some videos of those walking or cycling robots where the anti-collision systems did not work 😀

What the image on the infotainment screen? 

Fancy graphic for Lane Assist?

Those side impact videos still make me cringe when ISOFIX car seats FIX the car seat/child ridgid to a fixed point.

 

HowTF can that be safe in a side impact ?

On 28/01/2020 at 20:43, themanwithnoaim said:

Those side impact videos still make me cringe when ISOFIX car seats FIX the car seat/child ridgid to a fixed point.

 

HowTF can that be safe in a side impact ?

Because otherwise it would be flying around?

6 hours ago, TonyTonic said:

Because otherwise it would be flying around?

What when fixed to seatbelt ?

 

Don't see many adults flying about with seat belts on 🤔🤔🤔

21 minutes ago, themanwithnoaim said:

What when fixed to seatbelt ?

 

Don't see many adults flying about with seat belts on 🤔🤔🤔

Seat belts and airbags are designed to allow a lot of movement (deceleration) as a otherwise you tend to die.

All that forward speed (or side speed) needs some slack to decelerate as otherwise your brain would simply rotate in your skull and you're be pretty damn dead. As dead is forever I think externally a damaged monocoque (chassis in old money), all panels pinging off and then the odd internal firework, or two, snatching a belt or putting up a side cushion is a good job done.

On 13/12/2019 at 00:19, foregonereality said:

I never knew the tests went into such depth and detail with lane keep assist and auto emergency braking. Pretty impressive!

 

As regards the traditional impact tests - have the requirements gotten stricter since or would a new MK2/MK3 get the same 5 stars it got in the past?

Heres some fun fails    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9O-aejD0vI

I had a very unpleasant surprise the other day, while I was discussing car-safety with a friend and revisited the EuroNcap webpage. It looks like Octavia 4 was retested quite recently (crah-test results uploaded this month) and it managed to score less than the first series of tests back in 2019. It's not a huge difference, but I usually prefer that the safety goes up, not down during the production span of a certain model - I'm expecting the producer to find & eliminate flaws while statistics & feedback is coming from the released cars. If I correctly read the description of the two tests (2019 && 2022), the newer model is missing the Side Pelvis Airbag for the front seats that were fitted to the 2019 tested model. All in all, the car scored less on all chapters, with a minor increase in "Safety Assist" which I personally think is mostly marketing BS...
Why am I paying attention to those numbers and believe that any percent counts for the occupants and the pedestrians? Because the only major crash I had was fatal for my previous car and the two passengers inside didn't feel that great for a while... It was also a 5 star EuroNcap with 86% score for the front passengers.

Therefore the 92% score of the 2019 Octavia was an important factor in choosing my next car after the accident, when I placed the order back in 2021. The question is: the Octavia delivered to me in Nov.2022 is it a 92% or an 86%? One might say "it's marginal difference, so why do you care?"; 'cause that marginal difference might be the difference between one broken rib and several broken ribs (or worse)...  Simply compare the crash-test dummies diagrams for the adult occupants between the two tests, and you'll see what I mean.

2019:

https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/skoda/octavia/39136

2022:

https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/skoda/octavia/47756

Came across this video the other day from NCAP re the 2022 (i.e mark 4) Octavia.

 

I was pretty impressed!

 

 

I'm not impressed because I like cyclists, but if they can modify the AEB parameters to wipe out Trottinette riders instead of cyclists then I want one, especially if it can target young male riders wearing hoodies staring at their phone screens. 👍

30 minutes ago, FatWolfie said:

I was pretty impressed!

As I was saying yesterday, I'm not impressed (or I'm negatively impressed), simply because the rating of the very same car shouldn't go down.
I'd really like to know what's hidden behind this retesting in such a short time. For those not familiar with EuroNcap: it's not often al all to test the same model more than once per generation. In most cases, not even the facelift isn't tested.

14 minutes ago, SkOmk4 said:

I'm not impressed (or I'm negatively impressed), simply because the rating of the very same car shouldn't go down.

Agreed. And yet EuroKneecap arbitrarily drop their ratings because they add "new features" that they didn't even consider with the previous model.

4 hours ago, KenONeill said:

Agreed. And yet EuroKneecap arbitrarily drop their ratings because they add "new features" that they didn't even consider with the previous model.

Exactly. I wonder what the model used in the 2019 test would rate today? It’s simply not possible to compare between models as NCAP - like all similar quasi regulators- have a habit of ratcheting up standards so a test done on even the same car 3 years ago would give a different result today to that which they got 5 years ago..