Finally after 5 months my se tech in quartz grey is being delivered next week!

 

had to visit a showroom a few weeks back to remember what they look like! How’s everyone finding the 1.0tsi in the Karoq I’m mainly crawling in traffic everyday with the odd jaunt away for a weekend so power is a non issue.

 

interested to hear real world mpg people have been gettting specific to the 1.0tsi?

 

my current RAV4 does no more than 25mpg on a good day so the difference should be vast I’m hoping.

My long term over 5k is 41mpg. (DSG)

 

2 hours ago, Berisford said:

My long term over 5k is 41mpg. (DSG)

 

That’s great, mines a manual so should be marginally better. The1.0 tsi actually has more torque much lower down than my RAV4 2.0 4cyl so not coming from a diesel, it should have more useable power on paper

My money would be on the 1.0tsi DSG using less petrol than a manual if the use / speeds were the same.

 

Time will tell how it goes, handy having a thread where there can be you tell me yours and i will tell you mine,

Long Term in 1.0 DSG SE Tech after car has done 5000miles at 7months old, I get indicated 44mpg.  With my driving, long term calculation seems to reset itself at about 3000miles.  It actually showed 44mpg in that 1st 3000miles too, even though very much running in, but that was warmer, drier weather.  Same now after engine loosened up a little, but colder and lots of rain = always adversly affects mpg.  An initial brim to brim trial recently showed displayed mpg being 4% optimistic.  Mileometer checked against motorway red 100m posts seemed accurate though.  So adjust my overall mpg figures down to say 42mpg to be realistic.  Best mpg on a long not very hilly run has been 53 (51)mpg, but someone in a manual 1.0 here once got around 60mpg.  Am expecting gradually better figures come summer and car fully run in.

 

My driving is likely much more long journey modest traffic orientated than yours will be, so doubt you'll get as good economy as me.  I do anyway make a modest effort to drive economically - try to avoid using brakes as much as possible and don't see much point in accelerating hard (but performance is surprisingly good even so), except when overtaking.  However, I do drive at a fair speed, don't dordle - try to make driving a smooth flow.  Local runs of a few miles I can get almost 40mpg indicated, but I'm retired and always choose times to avoid traffic.

10 hours ago, croquemonsieur said:

Long Term in 1.0 DSG SE Tech after car has done 5000miles at 7months old, I get indicated 44mpg.  With my driving, long term calculation seems to reset itself at about 3000miles.  It actually showed 44mpg in that 1st 3000miles too, even though very much running in, but that was warmer, drier weather.  Same now after engine loosened up a little, but colder and lots of rain = always adversly affects mpg.  An initial brim to brim trial recently showed displayed mpg being 4% optimistic.  Mileometer checked against motorway red 100m posts seemed accurate though.  So adjust my overall mpg figures down to say 42mpg to be realistic.  Best mpg on a long not very hilly run has been 53 (51)mpg, but someone in a manual 1.0 here once got around 60mpg.  Am expecting gradually better figures come summer and car fully run in.

 

My driving is likely much more long journey modest traffic orientated than yours will be, so doubt you'll get as good economy as me.  I do anyway make a modest effort to drive economically - try to avoid using brakes as much as possible and don't see much point in accelerating hard (but performance is surprisingly good even so), except when overtaking.  However, I do drive at a fair speed, don't dordle - try to make driving a smooth flow.  Local runs of a few miles I can get almost 40mpg indicated, but I'm retired and always choose times to avoid traffic.

great info thanks,  My drive is a crawl into Canary Wharf everyday so I’m going to be getting major use out of the start/stop system I think. (Interested you hear thoughts on that whether it gets annoying) I currently do about 270 miles to a 50 litre tank  which works out about 25mpg in my petrol RAV4.

 

now I know this is subjective but if your all doing about 42mpg I could be looking at at least 400 mile range to a 50 litre tank?? Does that sound like what your getting? Eco cars are new to me, diesel era passed me by!

I've never really thought about it very much, but if I occasionally let the gauge get to looking as if it's empty, I typically manage to fill-up with nearly 45 litres of petrol.  I go to Bristol most months along the M4, a 300mile return trip and get 45-50mpg actual on the mainly motorway trip.  Sometimes I do quite a bit of driving around while there as well.  If I fill up at the start I don't need to think about refuelling until well after the return (though often as not do, as petrol is a bit cheaper there).

 

I just can't predict what the mpg would be in the really heavy traffic you experience.  I'd hope to do better than 27mpg but can't say for sure, others may be able to say.  For some reason, I recall ages ago reading a review of the first fwd 1.6 Cavalier model, a modest size car, which was typically capable of maybe 35mpg average, but they found it only did 16mpg in one bout of really heavy traffic!!!!!

 

There were a few complaints here about stop/start switching the engine off well before the car stops, on early production Karoqs, but I don't have any problems with my July 2019 car, as this only acts once the car fully stops, so maybe Skoda have that that issue well sorted now.  I do though usually like to switch off stop/start when setting off and for most of the time, as it makes quick getaways at junctions more hastle.  I only turn it on again when say at traffic lights, or a series of them, if I think I'll be waiting more than a minute or so.  I may be keeping my Karoq quite a long time & do worry that too much start/stop wears the starter motor mechanism early.   On the other hand, particularly on shorter journeys, it's quite noticeable how quickly the indicated journey average mpg worsens, when the car is stopped, but with the engine left idling.  In your case I would be tempted to use stop/start all the time in traffic.

 

There's an autohold facility that Skoda provide to use in combination with stop/start.  I imagine this will work rather differently on manuals, than with DSGs, so won't go into that, except to say it's always switched off in my car.  Conversely, some people here like using it with stop/start.

On the Stop/Start issue, I find that with the Karoq the engine restarts after quite a short time (20 - 30 seconds) compared to my old Yeti which would stay off for probably 2 minutes or more in certain situations (long temporary traffic lights for example). I love the autohold / electronic handbrake. When you stop make sure the green light is on (on the dash) and you can release the footbrake to stop dazzeling the car behind you at night. The brakes only seem to be partially applied in this state as when you move away again there is no 'grabbing' or resistance. When you finally stop and turn off the engine the handbrake fully engages automatically (light on dash turns red) and you can hear the brakes being applied. The 1.0TSI is a beauty. I was unsure of how it would perform after having a 1.4TSI Yeti previously, but it has surpassed my expectations by a mile and sounds lovely when accelerating a little faster than normal. No real MPG figures but I know I am putting less fuel in per month than with the Yeti.   I am sure you will love it.

Edited 7 March, 20206 yr by Smokeyjoe
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@Smokeyjoe

Have you actually checked your Karoq to see that the Brake Lights are not on when 'Autohold' is engaged?

Good if they are not because there are other Skoda Models where the Brake Lights are on with 'Autohold'.

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/432645-vw-group-vehicle-auto-hold-do-the-rear-brakes-lights-come-on

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/433302-auto-hold-brake-lights

 

Stop / Start should keep the engine off as long as you want when sitting waiting, unless the battery requires charge.

Stop / start should be instant in starting the car as the driver requires.

Edited 7 March, 20206 yr by Roottootemblowinootsoot

On 05/03/2020 at 22:41, Roottootemblowinootsoot said:

My money would be on the 1.0tsi DSG using less petrol than a manual if the use / speeds were the same.

 

Time will tell how it goes, handy having a thread where there can be you tell me yours and i will tell you mine,

Well adaptive cruise cruise control on the se tech should even the playing field on mpg which I’ve done a lot of reading on and it seems a great tool as long as it’s used on the right roads.

 

had to get my head around ACC on a Manual car though, apparently you just change down when slowing and dipping the clutch doesn’t disable it as it does on some other cars apparently.

 

well clearing my garage out to retire my 18 year old trusty RAV4 to make way for the Karoq on Tuesday!

1 hour ago, Roottootemblowinootsoot said:

@Smokeyjoe

Have you actually checked your Karoq to see that the Brake Lights are not on when 'Autohold' is engaged?

Good if they are not because there are other Skoda Models where the Brake Lights are on with 'Autohold'.

 

 

Oops! Just checked and they do stay on. I should have checked rather than presumed. Shame - it would be better if they did go off.

@Leefabia   If the car can have it driving more economically than you then that maybe says something about your driving.

 

Actually try drafting when behind a Coach, HGV or tall van at a safe distance, like where you can see their mirrors, and they can see you.

That is hypermiling in the eddy and it is further back than where the ACC would have your car.

 

Get it right and you can take your foot off the accelerator, watch the rpm drop and you are getting pulled along.

In some circumstances you might be further back than you normally are, have a safe braking distance and be where the wiper are not even needed if raining.

Edited 7 March, 20206 yr by Roottootemblowinootsoot

27 minutes ago, Roottootemblowinootsoot said:

@Leefabia   If the car can have it driving more economically than you then that maybe says something about your driving.

 

Actually try drafting when behind a Coach, HGV or tall van at a safe distance, like where you can see their mirrors, and they can see you.

That is hypermiling in the eddy and it is further back than where the ACC would have your car.

 

Get it right and you can take your foot off the accelerator, watch the rpm drop and you are getting pulled along.

In some circumstances you might be further back than you normally are, have a safe braking distance and be where the wiper are not even needed if raining.

Going to give that a whirl when on the next trip out

'Whats the worst that can happen!'.   

Worth trying in the right circumstances,  average speed camera areas are a good place.

 

Same with ACC, try with on trips and try without.

16 hours ago, Leefabia said:

great info thanks,  My drive is a crawl into Canary Wharf everyday so I’m going to be getting major use out of the start/stop system I think. (Interested you hear thoughts on that whether it gets annoying) I currently do about 270 miles to a 50 litre tank  which works out about 25mpg in my petrol RAV4.

 

now I know this is subjective but if your all doing about 42mpg I could be looking at at least 400 mile range to a 50 litre tank?? Does that sound like what your getting? Eco cars are new to me, diesel era passed me by!

I found the stop/start on a loan 1.0tsi was quite effective but it could also be incredibly annoying in really slow traffic and I would frequently turn it off.

The thing is the 1.0tsi is very economical and at tickover only consumes 0.5L/hour so you can work out how much fuel you will potentially save on your commute with the stop/start functioning against the fairly common complaint that it has caused premature degradation of an expensive EFB/AGM battery.

 

It has been a while since I did a commute into the Canary Wharf area but I think you would be lucky to get close to 40 mpg even in the economical Fabia but it will still be at least 50% better than your RAV4.

A mild hybrid works very well in that sort of traffic but Skoda have lagged well behind others in their offerings.

Edited 7 March, 20206 yr by Gerrycan

Saving fuel can happen.

Saving loads of cars near peoples houses or on the pavement having to breath in particulates can be reduced if vehicles are sitting at traffic lights, junctions, roadworks, gridlock with the engines not running.

Some might well be regenng though.

 

Not only Mild / Light Hybrids can help, plug in's can as well if the engine is off when stationery and then pull away using the electric power and no ICE used until the next stop.

 

If your commute or regular trip might be into and out of or through a city and the likes of 10 miles taking you 40-60 minutes it is dead easy to try with stop / start operating over those 10 miles, and other times without.

 

I know what uses less fuel for me when going through Aberdeen, Edinburgh, Glasgow and the likes, even on a by-pass that is gridlocked like with Edinburgh.

 

 

1.0TSI & 1.5 TSI's with DSG's are going to be Mild Hybrid in the Superb & Octavia and the others will follow.

They need to get the average C02 g/km down or pay the penalties.

 

Edited 7 March, 20206 yr by Roottootemblowinootsoot

Well, it arrived today. It had done 300 miles down from Manchester in the outing rain so was less than impressed when it turned up but it’s had a wash and I’m very pleased!

 

set everything up ok, one thing to note was that I’ve got the option of ‘comfort mode’ on my se technology drive modes. It selects ok, isn’t blanked out at all. I was surprised as I didn’t think the se tech came with the DCC suspension. It rides like a magic carpet 

 

anyone else got an se tech with ‘comfort mode’ or is that a 2020 thing that they all have?

39 minutes ago, Leefabia said:

Well, it arrived today. It had done 300 miles down from Manchester in the outing rain so was less than impressed when it turned up but it’s had a wash and I’m very pleased!

 

set everything up ok, one thing to note was that I’ve got the option of ‘comfort mode’ on my se technology drive modes. It selects ok, isn’t blanked out at all. I was surprised as I didn’t think the se tech came with the DCC suspension. It rides like a magic carpet 

 

anyone else got an se tech with ‘comfort mode’ or is that a 2020 thing that they all have?

 

Looks as if you've got a £120 freebie......curious though as the option couldn't/can't be selected on the 1.0 engine?

Edited 10 March, 20206 yr by Berisford

22 minutes ago, Berisford said:

 

Looks as if you've got a £120 freebie......curious though as the option couldn't/can't be selected on the 1.0 engine?

like you say I’ve been looking it up but can’t see it anywhere with the 1.0tsi. I’ve got comfort/normal/sport as the options. Will take a pic in a bit

18 minutes ago, Leefabia said:

like you say I’ve been looking it up but can’t see it anywhere with the 1.0tsi. I’ve got comfort/normal/sport as the options. Will take a pic in a bit

there we go, is this DCC?

29 minutes ago, Leefabia said:

there we go, is this DCC?

think I might of made a boo boo, looking at the title of the section I’m in it’s the ACC section. Looks as though looking at old posts this to adjust the responsiveness of the ACC acceleration.

 

weird, I’m sure you can forgive me for making that assumption! 

Ah, I was going to ask if you have the 'mode' button next to the parking brake controls..............