Hi all. 
 

O3FL 2019 2.0 TDI 150HP DSG7 (DQ381). 
 

My issue is that the DSG is very “soft” in the 2nd and occasionally 3rd gear, meaning that it’s tends to slip the clutch to get a soft gear change. 
It is a wet clutch, so some brief slip is okay. 
But it annoys me that does not engage fully immediately. This means, when accelerating softly-to-normally, it tends to slip almost through the whole of 2nd gear, which I have a hard time time understanding should be correct. 
 

Same with R (reverse). It’s extremely soft in engaging the clutch. If you push the pedal, the revs increase, of almost does not enhance more (slipping more), which sounds like you are a poor driver. 
 

Has anyone else experienced this? Any tips?

note: I cannot provoke it to slip, when full-torque in any gears. No issues there. 

 

Edited 21 September, 20205 yr by Octy111

It must be slipping 2 clutches then as it is a dual clutch gearbox, or just choosing a gear and trying to get you economy as you re using a soft accelerator.

6-7 gears is a lot to get through if just picking up speed and you are going to be in D7 by 100kph.

Edited 21 September, 20205 yr by e-Roottoot

Clear. 
 

I do not suspect that the DSG has any issues as such. But it is more related to calibration or how it is programmed by Skoda. 
I just wonder if anyone has the same issue, and whether there are any tricks to have a bit sharper software (e.g. by a setting or calibration or similar). 

I've got a DQ381 box on my Scout. Generally, with diesels and this DSG box, it will start the car in 2nd gear. If you do foot flat to the floor in starting, the car will utilise 1st gear.

 

I agree that it does feel annoying but the box is designed to do that.

 

The only issue I ever had was that they mis-filled the gearbox oil from the factory on my Scout. It had the correct oil but not enough of it in box. That caused high reving when cold and poor transfer of power through the gearbox.

 

The only other solution is bespoke firmware on the gearbox.

 

High there, my car has the DQ381 and yes it's slips too much between 2nd and 3rd, and can be a pain sometimes getting away at a junction or roundabout, I try and get into 3rd asap and accelerate then, as mentioned erarlier would need a DSG remap to fix this, is the DQ381 just the 4wd box ? or is the 2wd DQ380 ?

 

Cheers

Mine is worst between 1st and 2nd. And in reverse. 
I’ve just performed a new “basic setting” of the DSG via VCDS tool, and performed the proposed test drives. 
it seems to have helped. time will show if it is only short term. 

Am I the only one with this issue?

Not noticed any issue with it, but I have the petrol 190HP and I tend to drive gently at low speed anyway. 

Did the VCDS setting have any effect?

Hi Octy111,

 

Even though i'm driving an 2.0tsi 190hp DSG, i sometimes experience symptoms like the ones you describe.

I'm also from Denmark, so messages for me can be writen in Danish.

If you live near Copenhagen - i'm happy to take you in a trip in my 190hp petrol so you can compare the slippines.

I'm sure i feel somekind of slippines or something "odd", but nothing that has been frustrating or causing issues for me at all - it feels completely different in Sport mode for me with no slippines / "odd" feeling however.

Hi,

I notice the same thing on my 2019 TDI Scout. it slips the clutch a lot in 2nd gear. 

If you switch into manual mode that can help to stop it by forcing it down into 1st gear. 

Ive been looking around to see if there are any DSG remapping that might help. 

Coming from a VRS its pretty frustrating. 

 

 

I noticed this and I think it's part of the standard logic built into the software. It does it less when in S.

I had mine slipping in 3rd gear yesterday. Only on very gentle throttle. I guess this is intended behaviour to make the drive smooth. 

Interesting enough; I had a LONG conversation with my dealer about my 2019 Scout.  The firmware on the DSG gearbox needs updating.  ODBEleven reports that the firmware on my MY19 car need updating - as well as the firmware of the Climatronic system.

They are going to update the firmware on the car and I'm interested to see if that fixes some of the soft engagement of clutch. 

 

There is naturally a slipage when starting off slowly - most TDI's have enough torque to start off in second.  If you floor it, then the car will engage 1st....but it is an odd sensation that an 'auto-box' slips the clutch deliberely. 

 

My earlier comment about the fluid in the DSG gearbox cannot be understated.  It turns out that I was 'missing' 0.5 litres of DSG fluid in my car's gearbox.  Replacing the DSG fluid - basically gave enough pressure on the clutch mechanism to make sure the car was engaging the clutch properly.  If your DSG gearbox is slipping (and the biggest factor which highlights this issue - is that you need over 2000rpm to get the car to move when you first move), might I suggest you get your Skoda dealer to replace the fluid - on the basis that your gearbox is excessively slipping the clutch mechanism and will cause excessive wear of the clutch if it isn't fixed.

 

I had to shell out, but Skoda UK refunded me the amount (£350 + VAT).  I had to get their customer service team involved and nobody quibbled - which makes me think this is a 'known' issue with underfilling of the gearboxes.

 

I'll report back when the gearbox is updated and let you know how I get on.

Just yesterday I saw a Skoda UK fixed price servicing menu that put the DSG oil change at £199. IIRC

2 hours ago, TDIum said:

Just yesterday I saw a Skoda UK fixed price servicing menu that put the DSG oil change at £199. IIRC

Yes - that figure is for all cars over 3 years old (as Skoda subsidise that cost).

@varaderoguy

So what is the 'un-subsidised' price to do a DSG oil change on a 40,000 mile DSG under 3 years old?

 

The Fixed Price Service & Maintenance Menu no longer says anything about cars 3-10 years old.

Okay to clarify as @e-Roottootis confused: taken from the Skoda Servicing website https://www.skoda.co.uk/owners/servicing-maintenance-fixed-price:

 

The above displayed prices are valid for ŠKODA cars 3 years (from first MOT) up to 10 years old and are available to customers at participating ŠKODA retailers only. They represent the maximum selling price but participating ŠKODA retailers are free to offer lower prices. All prices are (where applicable) inclusive of standard parts, labour, oil and VAT and come with a two-year parts and labour warranty. This offer cannot be used in conjunction with any other offer and may be varied or withdrawn at any time. Further terms and conditions apply, please ask your SKODA retailer for details.

 

Therefore if your car is under 3 years old, you will be charged the unsubsidised rate (usually double the price) for work.

 

 

Edited 12 November, 20205 yr by varaderoguy
Clarification

@varaderoguy

So what is the 'un-subsidised' price to do a DSG oil change on a 40,000 mile DSG under 3 years old?

 

The Fixed Price Service & Maintenance Menu no longer says anything about cars 3-10 years old.

 

@e-Roottootit certainly does - try scrolling to the bottom of the page showing the Fixed Priced Serving costs.

 

@varaderoguy Thanks, i see the T&C's now are still there.

Makes little difference what Skoda UK might say.

If someone has a under 3 year old car there are dealerships that will do the DSG oil change for £200.

 

Actually there are some that will do over 3 year old ones and were saying it was £229 with a filter and are now saying £249. 

Money for old rope.

@varaderoguy

If you watch a Technician doing the cars service from the viewing area including the DSG oil change and they went and sat with their feet up for 40-60 minutes to stretch out the time / labour so that the job was double the price you would be saying WTF.

& the oil is the price the oil is.

Edited 12 November, 20205 yr by e-Roottoot

Holy bajeezus. So fixed price servicing doesn't really mean that - it's a limited offer.

As if only £199 was a small amount of money. 

As long as you have a ramp and the VW siphon tube thingy it can't be more than 20 minutes work can it? 

By the way, that is not intended as an invitation to educate me on exactly what it does entail. 

It is certainly not done in 20 minutes from a tech picking up the keys and worksheet as Nd car onto the ramp and then doing the drain and refill and road-test.  But then when the car is getting serviced anyway it is going on the ramp, being plugged in, and supposedly getting a road test.  And the brake inspection free, wash and vacuum and body inspection.  You can not just keeping adding time and charging £95 plus VAT an hour.  As anyone working in a main dealer workshop know how many 'services' fitter / techs can get done in an 8 hour day. 

Volk Service charged me £170 using genuine oil and can update the online service record. Cant see the point in using main stealers anymore as they simply charge too much.