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In response to my letter to a UK Skoda director chasing a delovery date for the SEL PHEV I ordered back in Feb.

I received another call today from his outer office.

They are going to call me again next week once they have spoken to the factory. Perhaps they will have a date for me?

I am currently order accepted no build date suggesting my car is still months away.

Hope you are doing better than I.

 

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Dont get your hopes up. 😅

As I have mentioned previously I get bi-weekly updates from the dealer, one last Saturday, no update, and then one on Wednesday, bizarrely to say no update :o

Update on my VRS IV Hatch (silver no extras).... ordered very early October 2022, been given a delivery date of 29th Dec 23 which is the last working day of 2023 so no doubt will be later than that. This is a company car.

@BRSEngineer await your updates with interest as I am 2 months behind you in the queue for an SEL IV Estate

2 hours ago, undercoversaint said:

Update on my VRS IV Hatch (silver no extras).... ordered very early October 2022, been given a delivery date of 29th Dec 23 which is the last working day of 2023 so no doubt will be later than that. This is a company car.

Good grief! I smell a rat here.

This is a ridiculously long time to have to wait for a new car. I understand delays for parts but 14 months does not sound plausible to me.

I'm not doubting what @undercoversaintis reporting, but the delay sounds contrived rather than unfortunate.

4 minutes ago, EnterName said:

Good grief! I smell a rat here.

This is a ridiculously long time to have to wait for a new car. I understand delays for parts but 14 months does not sound plausible to me.

I'm not doubting what @undercoversaintis reporting, but the delay sounds contrived rather than unfortunate.

It was completely normal a few months ago, the situation seemed to get better for a bit at the end of the year, but I feel like Skoda just rushed out builds they had parts for and everyone else got delayed even further.

Just now, zetzet said:

It was completely normal a few months ago, the situation seemed to get better for a bit at the end of the year, but I feel like Skoda just rushed out builds they had parts for and everyone else got delayed even further.

Yes, I remember this came as one of the knock-on effects of the COVID pandemic, and there were genuine supply chain issues, but surely those have been sorted out?

Even in 2020, when COVID panic was in full swing, 187,000 Octavias were built. https://www.skoda.co.uk/news/details/skoda-auto-produced-over-750000-vehicles-at-czech-plants

Surely they must be producing more now?

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8 minutes ago, EnterName said:

Yes, I remember this came as one of the knock-on effects of the COVID pandemic, and there were genuine supply chain issues, but surely those have been sorted out?

Even in 2020, when COVID panic was in full swing, 187,000 Octavias were built. https://www.skoda.co.uk/news/details/skoda-auto-produced-over-750000-vehicles-at-czech-plants

Surely they must be producing more now?

 

Actually it got worse in 2022 as far as I know. I don't know if you can believe this page, but it seems about accurate to me. https://carsalesbase.com/europe-koda-octavia/

35 minutes ago, EnterName said:

Good grief! I smell a rat here.

This is a ridiculously long time to have to wait for a new car. I understand delays for parts but 14 months does not sound plausible to me.

I'm not doubting what @undercoversaintis reporting, but the delay sounds contrived rather than unfortunate.

I was initially given 12 months then it updated to end of December. It might be the lease company being conservative seen as they’ve given the last working day of the year as a delivery date. That date stinks of “we have no idea, just tell him before the end of the year”.

2 minutes ago, zetzet said:

Actually it got worse in 2022 as far as I know. I don't know if you can believe this page, but it seems about accurate to me. https://carsalesbase.com/europe-koda-octavia/

I'm happy to take that page at face value. However that page refers to sales, not how many cars were actually made.

It seems contradictory to me, that although fewer cars are being sold, waiting times are still long.

I'd have expected waiting times to come right down as fewer cars are sold, assuming capacity has remained at 187K or more, but I may be missing something.

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1 hour ago, EnterName said:

Good grief! I smell a rat here.

This is a ridiculously long time to have to wait for a new car. I understand delays for parts but 14 months does not sound plausible to me.

I'm not doubting what @undercoversaintis reporting, but the delay sounds contrived rather than unfortunate.


February 4th marks 16 months of waiting for me for my vRS IV Estate.  I really want the car as everything about it suits my lifestyle - the electric range for my daily commute, the load capacity for bikes/kayak/skis and obviously the price compared to other similar sized cars and the added extras such as the tow bar, inductive phone charging, heated steering wheel etc.  The wait is getting painful though.  The temporary car I bought to see me through is not a car I would ever have chosen long term.   :o(

13 hours ago, EnterName said:

I'm happy to take that page at face value. However that page refers to sales, not how many cars were actually made.

It seems contradictory to me, that although fewer cars are being sold, waiting times are still long.

I'd have expected waiting times to come right down as fewer cars are sold, assuming capacity has remained at 187K or more, but I may be missing something.

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Here are the official 2022 numbers from Skoda's press site: https://www.skoda-storyboard.com/en/press-releases/skoda-auto-delivers-731300-vehicles-worldwide-in-2022/

According to this, Skoda delivered 141K Octavias in 2022 which is 29,7% less than in 2021.

 

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This is the German website that has estimated dates for every VW group model.
https://www.marnet-mobility.de/aktuelle-lieferzeiten.html

 

Skoda Octavia, the iV models have been removed, unclear when outstanding orders will eventually get made, but dates had similar to Enyaq (so now 2024)

 

Octavia seems to be one of most delayed models

Voraussichtlich ab Marz 2024 translates as probably from March 2024

 

 

 

After browsing various forums, Octavia Hybrid orders from November 2021 onwards have all been moved to late 2023 early 2024. Why that is, I have no idea. In the German-speaking forum, no one who ordered in November or December 2021 has a delivery currently confirmed earlier than December 2023.  So I have hope that Skoda is still sorting it out. As far as I have heard, there is a lack of batteries.

We have ordered an RS Hybrid in December 2021 and the current forecast is for delivery in week 01 / 202.

4 minutes ago, ffm_driver said:

After browsing various forums, Octavia Hybrid orders from November 2021 onwards have all been moved to late 2023 early 2024. Why that is, I have no idea. In the German-speaking forum, no one who ordered in November or December 2021 has a delivery currently confirmed earlier than December 2023.  So I have hope that Skoda is still sorting it out. As far as I have heard, there is a lack of batteries.

We have ordered an RS Hybrid in December 2021 and the current forecast is for delivery in week 01 / 202.

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40 minutes ago, ffm_driver said:

After browsing various forums, Octavia Hybrid orders from November 2021 onwards have all been moved to late 2023 early 2024. Why that is, I have no idea. In the German-speaking forum, no one who ordered in November or December 2021 has a delivery currently confirmed earlier than December 2023.  So I have hope that Skoda is still sorting it out. As far as I have heard, there is a lack of batteries.

We have ordered an RS Hybrid in December 2021 and the current forecast is for delivery in week 01 / 202.

By hybrid do you mean plug-in hybrid? Or even e-tec? Which isn't really hybrid, but Škoda call it mild-hybrid.

1 hour ago, Semiconductor34 said:

By hybrid do you mean plug-in hybrid? Or even e-tec? Which isn't really hybrid, but Škoda call it mild-hybrid.

Yes, i mean plug in hybrid

8 minutes ago, ffm_driver said:

Yes, i mean plug in hybrid

Ow, okey, because i ordered e-tec, but it doesn't seem that situation is improving. 

I was talking to the sales guy in my local dealer (getting a service done) and the comment was that I was damn lucky to get the car and if I ordered now, it would probably be summer 2024 delivery!

 

Other Skoda models are no problem 

1 hour ago, Hairy_Joe said:

I was talking to the sales guy in my local dealer (getting a service done) and the comment was that I was damn lucky to get the car and if I ordered now, it would probably be summer 2024 delivery!

 

Other Skoda models are no problem 

So what variant did you order and when?

This morning advised by dealer to request lease extension of +3 months from VWFS.  Thats on top of the 6 month lease extension the current diesel mk.3 is already on from August 2022.

 

Mk.4 order: SEL Estate iV, ordered January 2022. Anticipated delivered August 2022..   Latest advice from dealer to extend (again) the current lease suggests total lead time could be in the region of: 16/17 months from initial order.

 

Though I get the feeling it remains a case of - who really knows!

51 minutes ago, whereismyorder said:

This morning advised by dealer to request lease extension of +3 months from VWFS.  Thats on top of the 6 month lease extension the current diesel mk.3 is already on from August 2022.

 

Mk.4 order: SEL Estate iV, ordered January 2022. Anticipated delivered August 2022..   Latest advice from dealer to extend (again) the current lease suggests total lead time could be in the region of: 16/17 months from initial order.

 

Though I get the feeling it remains a case of - who really knows!


Why have they suggested requesting a 3 month extension, when everything else is suggesting you will need another 9-12 months.

 

I don't trust dealers that drip feed small extensions rather than be honest and give you a best estimate date, even if it not what you want to hear.

 

VWFS is not a charity, they are not contractually obliged to keep extending your deal, you are running risk they might say 2 extensions max, or max 12 month extensions etc, or they see you as captive so hike the payments to extend.   Very high risk strategy for you with no comeback on dealer if their 3 months suggestion is wrong.

 

 

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I spoke with my dealer today. He said that they spoke with the representative of the factory last week, but this conversation did not yield any results. The car is still waiting for parts and the factory cannot give build week.

I do not believe that my car will suddenly arrive in the next 2-3 months. In March, 18 months will have passed since the moment of ordering and 6 months from the originally named production week. I understand there are problems with plug-in hybrids, but why do you have to wait so long for mild hybrids.

It's funny that for other car manufacturers or models, the delivery takes up to 9 months, but Octavia took so long...

It's scary to imagine if the car will have problems with the parts that are currently missing during the warranty period. You can put it at the service door for half a year and wait...

EV,s big battery packs, PHEV, small battery packs, mild hybrids ity bity battery packs.  But there are shortages of minerals, materials and batteries as well as chips.

 

There was Covid in 2021,

but Russia invaded the Ukraine only on the 24th February 2022.  So only 11 months ago. 

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