Hi folks, new Skoda owner but not new to VW group cars. Sadly had to move on my Passat 2.0tdi thanks to the imminent ULEZ boundary 2 minutes from where I live. Loved the 6 speed DSG the Passat had but my 2010 Superb II feels totally different with its changing pattern and I'm unsure if it's a 6 or 7 speed box (V5 filled out by dealership, I only have the green slip at the moment which doesn't tell you what box is fitted). Also read Honest John saying 7 speed dry sump doesn't need a fluid change which I find hard to believe. Can anybody provide some insight please?

What engine does the car have?

1.8 TSi 160bhp

 

Then it should be the 7 speed dry clutch unit. It's easy to check anyway by keeping an eye on the gear position readout on the dash display.

 

These 'boxes are not dry sump, they're dry clutch, which means the clutch packs are outside the gear case instead of inside like on the 6 speed wet clutch design. The wet clutch unit uses a different type of fluid & gets worked much harder by having to handle the chitals, hence the 60000 km change interval on those.

 

There was a service campaign on some of the 7 speed dry clutch units but I don't know if it applies to your car. Others will probably be able to tell you more.

Haven't got it up to speed to see if it's 6 or 7 gears yet, rather difficult to go fast on Battersea High St. 😉 Thanks for the info.👍

@Andy9-5

There is no Servicing or oil changes in the manufacturers guidelines or schedule for a DQ200 DSG getting an oil change.  There are 2 oils.

But, 

likely the car has had one sometime from May 2014 when a Service Campaign was started in Europe, which was not part of the World Wide Recall not being in the world.

 

So '34F7' had the Synthetic Oil filled at the factory changed to mineral oil and a software update done.

If done there should be a sticker in the Spare Tyre well with '34F7' on it and a date and a dealers stamp. 

 

The car might well be into D7 by 45 mph or so. 

So if no sticker in boot with 34F7 I'm to assume the original synthetic oil is still in the box and a switch to mineral with a software update is prudent? 

The 1.8 TSI definitely got the 7 speed gearbox.

 

It does drive a bit different to the 6 speed since the clutches are basically like standard clutches whereas the 6 speed clutches are multi plate oil lubricated and so tend to slip more to smooth out drive uptake etc.

 

It's funny how much false information floats around out there. Definitely not dry sump. Lol

 

They actually have 2 oils in them. One for the gearbox (actually just standard manual gearbox oil) and one for the mechatronics (the green power steering/hydraulic fluid).

 

It's possible yours needs the oil change but also possible it doesn't. Was a bit hit and miss!

 

I just did a precautionary change on mine. Oil was fairly grotty and it's definitely driving super smooth (did before the change to be honest).

@Andy9-5. If no sticker in the boot assume nothing.   A Skoda Dealership or Skoda might have said no Service Campaign action required as happened with some cars.  There could have been mineral oil in at the factory at that particular build time. Or there was no sticker put in, as happened quite a lot.  Or they were just wrong as has proven to be common.   So basically you ask at a dealer of with Skoda. Was it done or should it have been done.     Now if not done then leave well alone if the car drives well. The issue that required the world wide recall was known 9 years ago....

Just thought I'd update you all. Car had horrible shimmer 1 to 2 and 2 to 3 both changing up and down hence my original post. Saw the post about doing a reset via the accelerator pedal, did it this morning and it's virtually cured. Still the slightest of shimmer 1st to 2nd but I can live with that, the rest of the changes are fine. (No sticker in boot incidentally). Thanks to everyone for their input, it's appreciated. 

I'd still maybe get it checked out.

 

How many miles has it done?

 

They can check the clutch thickness via diagnostics too.

 

My oil and mechatronic were also both slightly under-filled although there were zero signs of any leaks.

Done 73k FSH albeit indy rather than main stealer.

@Andy9-5

What does the full history show as being done over the past 10 or 11 years?

Is it annual or bi-annual oil changes, pollen and air filter and spark plugs, brake fluid changed a few times etc.

 

Maybe check here and see if anything shows outstanding for Service Campaign work.

http://skoda-auto.com/services/recall-actions

 

First 2 services are bi-annual, annual after that. Shows two brake fluid changes so far, 1 set of plugs (put a new set in yesterday), the normal air filter, occasional cabin filter, oil & oil filter on every service. The Indy's have only filled the top half of the service info so may be more filters done. No recalls outstanding on Skoda website. What's the recommended oil for the 1.8TSI? Engine code is CDAA. My Passat was spec'd PD 5w-30 C3 from the factory but VW issued a recommendation to change to 5w-40 after about 4 years. 

@Andy9-5Interesting about VW issuing that advice, 

It is good, and what many of us do with TSI's,

but i have never seen a TPI from VW / Skoda / Audi or SEAT saying that.   It would be great to see that in print from VW.

 

 

5w 30 FS III  so VW 504 00 / 507 00 is the recommended oil for Fixed & Variable Servicing.  Long Life Oil.

 

With a 1.8 TSI i would use VW502 00, so 5w 40 FS.    That is not Long Life Oil and means for fixed service intervals.

 

Not to scare you,

but look at the pinned thread & the top of the Mk2 Octavia Section on 1.8 & 2.0 TSI's and be aware of the potential issues.

 

PS

TDI's require VW 507 00.   That is for Fixed or Variable Service Intervals.

 No idea why VW would recommend 5w 40 for TDI's after 4 years, 

 there must have been some misunderstanding with that.

Edited 2 April, 20215 yr by e-Roottoot

14 hours ago, e-Roottoot said:

No idea why VW would recommend 5w 40 for TDI's after 4 years, 

 there must have been some misunderstanding with that.

I get the impression that OP's Passat was older than 2010, and 5W-40 was more commonly used on cars of that era. There was certainly a school of thought back then that 5W-30 was not good enough to avoid serious cam/camshaft wear and that 5W-40 was a better option.

@chimaera That School of thought was correct.  I had a 2005 Passat.

 

Have you ever seen a Volkswagen TPI that got to dealerships recommending changing the spec of oil for the diesels or petrols from their official advice at launch & after the warranty had expired?

1 hour ago, e-Roottoot said:

@chimaera That School of thought was correct.  I had a 2005 Passat.

 

Have you ever seen a Volkswagen TPI that got to dealerships recommending changing the spec of oil for the diesels or petrols from their official advice at launch & after the warranty had expired?

No, but that's not to say that clued in individuals at dealerships wouldn't have made that recommendation to customers. From a customer perspective, the dealer is Volkswagen - they're not going to know or care that there's a difference between a VW TPI and a knowledgeable dealer tech's own recommendation.

Correct, it was a 2008 TDI, last of the pumpé duse before they went CR. They're not renowned for their quiet running especially when cold, once they get to 80k+ after a few years they clatter even more. Going 5w-40 just makes them a bit more civilized