Just bought a 2018 Karoq diesel SE L 4*4. 

The sales rep told me it was permeant 4 wheel drive with just 10 percent of the power going to the rear wheels, more when needed. But I cannot find any more information or conformation regarding this. Can anyone give me any more info. 

Slawit 51.

   

https://youtu.be/ZSkwYwgd3ZI

28 minutes ago, Kenny R said:

https://youtu.be/ZSkwYwgd3ZI

Thanks for that, very informative.

You might find these articles interesting as well. ŠKODA 4×4: Your Best Bet in the Snow - ŠKODA Storyboard (skoda-storyboard.com)

 

My understanding is that the rear wheels are only driven when the front ones lose traction, but even in last winter's snow I never detected mine being engaged. The car just drove over the snow and ice with no fuss whatsoever. 

 

Chris

 

PS: According to this video: History of the Haldex AWD System - YouTube the Gen 1 Haldex fed 10% to 50% drive to the rear wheels as required. The Gen 2 fed 5% to 50%, and from the Gen 3 on it was 0% to 50%. So your salesman was a bit out of date

 

Chris

Edited 11 May, 20215 yr by CJJE
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Me neither, driving on fresh snow through to sheet black ice, never knew when it was 2wd or 4wd.  And that was without the fancy mode switching that pauper level doesn’t have, car just did it’s thing.  Very happy with its performance in the conditions I bought it, the 4x4 version, for.  👍

Thanks to all for the great info.

If it's done more than 30k without a service to the Haldex unit it may well be just a two wheel drive car. The filter blocks and that stops the unit working to send power to the rear.

If I accelerate out from a junction sharply I can feel some power going to the rear if the front wheels slip slightly.

16 hours ago, CJJE said:

PS: According to this video: History of the Haldex AWD System - YouTube the Gen 1 Haldex fed 10% to 50% drive to the rear wheels as required. The Gen 2 fed 5% to 50%, and from the Gen 3 on it was 0% to 50%. So your salesman was a bit out of date

 

 

We've been on Gen 5 Haldex since 2016.  

 

'Haldex Generation V uses an electronic control design that can proactively engage the clutch before any actual slip occurs. It monitors steering angle, throttle position, engine torque, engine RPM, individual wheel speeds, vehicle yaw and other sensors. These feed the anti-lock brake system (ABS), anti-slip regulation (ASR, a.k.a. traction control), Cross Differential Lock (XDS: an advanced descendent of VW/Audi's Electronic Differential Lock, EDL), the Electronic Stabilization Program (ESP) as well as the Haldex working together in the integrated 4Motion system. These data combined with those systems act in concert to vector torque to the wheels in proportion to where the driver is directing travel.'    From here.....https://www.wolfeden.org/cars/golf-r/haldex.html

I am sure it does, but I can also sometimes feel the shove from the rear as the front wheels momentarily lose grip. You can feel it through the seat that the rear is pushing.

It's worth noting that with 4 wheel drive you also get a more robust DSG transmission with oil bath clutches and a 4-link rear suspension.

 

Edited 12 May, 20215 yr by agedbriar

14 hours ago, agedbriar said:

It's worth noting that with 4 wheel drive you also get a more robust DSG transmission with oil bath clutches and a 4-link rear suspension.

 

I thought all the latest dsg boxes where wet as opposed to the dry type.

Edited 13 May, 20215 yr by pragmatix

They are with AWD and 2.0 TSI's or TDI's.

They were Wet when 6 speed when more than 250Nm Torque or those over 150 PS in a Skoda (192ps VW)

 

With FWD and 1.0 or 1.5 TSI's they are still DQ200's, So 7 speed Twin Dry Clutch.

and with 1.0 / 1.5 TSI Mild Hybrids they will be e-DQ200's.

25 minutes ago, e-Roottoot said:

They are with AWD and 2.0 TSI's or TDI's.

They were Wet when 6 speed when more than 250Nm Torque or those over 150 PS in a Skoda (192ps VW)

 

With FWD and 1.0 or 1.5 TSI's they are still DQ200's, So 7 speed Twin Dry Clutch.

and with 1.0 / 1.5 TSI Mild Hybrids they will be e-DQ200's.

Must be a salesman talking out of his arse then, whe I asked about MY21 1.5 tsi with ACT he said wet.

Edited 13 May, 20215 yr by pragmatix

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Some Skoda Perth / John Clark Motor Group sales staff are not the greatest for knowing their arse from elbow if it was one of them.

2 minutes ago, e-Roottoot said:

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Some Skoda Perth / John Clark Motor Group sales staff are not the greatest for knowing their arse from elbow if it was one of them.

Dundee, to be fair most salesmen no nowt about the technical side of cars.

Edited 13 May, 20215 yr by pragmatix

They had ones that had knowledge and experience and an interest in cars.  They moved on to pastures new. 

1 hour ago, pragmatix said:

Must be a salesman talking out of his arse then, whe I asked about MY21 1.5 tsi with ACT he said wet.

Nothing new there. I still remember being in a FIAT dealers with my parents in the 1980s, when he was insisting that the FIAT 124 was also FWD just like the FIAT 128 I was persuading them to buy. He only stopped when I showed him the prop shaft on the 124!

 

Chris