I have driven cars with 140bhp and this Octavia is definitely much more powerful than those cars were. My road tax is only £30 because its 140bhp- if it was officially a higher bhp then road tax would be considerably more- VW emissions scandal mk2?  Your right about rolling roads- no two are the same lol! 

My wife has the 1.2Tsi 105bhp in her Fabia, my father has the 1.2 16valve 110bhp newer engine- his is gutless on acceleration in fact its miles apart- you have to really rev it hard which isnt pleasant as its a coarse noisy engine when revved like that- I prefer my wifes simpler torquier engine which pulls away much better. Not a fan of 3 cylinders would rather have 4 or 6 - like my Mercedes R129 SL and Triumph TR6 - gorgeous sounding classic engines which will be missed by future generations sadly ahhh I digress.

I love 3cylinder engines, the thrum alone is worth it 

No no no thrum its awful why not just buy a Trabant then if thats what you like you can have all the thrum you want in one of those lol

Edited 4 October, 20214 yr by Michaeldavis39

4 minutes ago, Michaeldavis39 said:

 I have driven cars with 140bhp and this Octavia is definitely much more powerful than those cars were. My road tax is only £30 because its 140bhp- if it was officially a higher bhp then road tax would be considerably more- VW emissions scandal mk2?  Your right about rolling roads- no two are the same lol! 

My wife has the 1.2Tsi 105bhp in her Fabia, my father has the 1.2 16valve 110bhp newer engine- his is gutless on acceleration in fact its miles apart- you have to really rev it hard which isnt pleasant as its a coarse noisy engine when revved like that- I prefer my wifes simpler torquier engine which pulls away much better. Not a fan of 3 cylinders would rather have 4 or 6 - like my Mercedes R129 SL and Triumph TR6 - gorgeous sounding classic engines which will be missed by future generations sadly ahhh I digress.

Thinking.....possible you are getting great mpg as someone mapped the car? It's taking everything with ease now?

 

I had a mapped MK1 S3 and it's mpg was almost diesel-esque

 

2 minutes ago, Michaeldavis39 said:

No no no thrum its awful why not just buy a Trabant then if thats what you like you can have all the thrum you want in one if those lol

I had an Aygo when they first came out and I loved its noise. 

Well its a good thing we are all different or else the world would be a boring place 👍.  

Agree totally

Sad, I know, but I keep full records of fuel consumption.

 

I ran a 1.4 140 BHP Octavia Mk 3 hatch five years ago.  Over 15,300 miles it averaged 41.8 mpg.  Having come from a Saab 2.3t with 220 bhp, I wasn't light on the Octavia's throttle.

 

On three long trips away in the Octy, Cheshire to Kent and back for a few days, around 700 miles each time including plenty of pottering about, with four adults and a boot full of luggage, it averaged over 51 mpg each time.  The best the Saab managed on the same trips was 37mpg.

A turbo on a relatively small engine offers a different paradigm of features compared to the traditional naturally aspirated engine and in my opinion the VW groups 1.4tsi (and related engines) are good examples of the genre.

If you just look at power then it is far from impressive, my 103kw (140ps) and the later 110kw (150ps) at 4000-5000 rpm can be matched by a sub 2.0l NA engine but look at torque and it is a different matter. Its 250Nm of torque from 1500-3500rpm would probably require a near 3.0l NA engine to match that torque at those low revs.

The engine is turbine smooth, quiet and still revs out cleanly to the redline although there is no real benefit in going over 4000rpm, and this is in a car that only weighs circa 1300kg. 

IF you use the performance available then consumption will be quite heavy, but driven sensibly on public roads (ie avoiding speeding fines) then that small capacity engine can be very thrifty.

I've overtaken B-double and triple trucks doing a regulation 100kph on an Australian (one lane each way, undivided) highways many times with our car fully loaded with 4 people and luggage and never felt I needed more performance.

 

There is better out there for economy though. Last week my wife and I rented a Toyota Hybrid Corolla hybrid with a 1.8l engine and peak power of 80kw at 4000rpm and we did 2300km in two weeks touring on the flat empty roads of the Northern Territories of Australia where the hybrid system would contribute relatively little benefit. The remarkable thing is I reckon my Octavia would have used at least 25% more fuel for any given speed up to their local 130kph speed limit and around town it was even better. That is progress for you, although there were other aspects of the car I found wanting compared to ours.

 

Toyota seemingly have a knack of taking any personality, feeling or soul out of a car. It'd no wonder that almost every minicab driver in my area looks fed up driving their Toyota hybrid..

Im surprised the Japanese car manufacturers sell as many cars as they do- has no nobody looked at the interiors and the hard plastics all over? I have not seen one Japanese car with a nice interior even the switches on some were awful and what is it with the exterior weird shapes of the latest Honda Civic- my word thats a very ugly car!