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But what is DIN. As you can tell I am not knowledgeable on cars, now brain surgery that's a different thing. LOL

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ETA: DIN IIRC is the German (Europe?) system.

 

Doesn't really matter, it's a bit like metric or Imperialist measurements, and figures are only an indicator it's how well the battery actually performs in the real world, some will keep to figures longer than others and anyway as VW proved you can get the figures you want.

 

I should add, do bear in mind recharging your present battery or replacing it might not solve your warning light issue.  If you can disconnect the existing battery and leave the car without a a battery connected for hours before connecting the new battery even that in itself might help reset some things.

 

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There are no lights on anymore or warnings. When I started the car after my wife had the problem the EPC light came on as usual but went out when I turned the engine on. It's all very puzzling. The main dealer cannot find any faults or codes even historical ones

I meant something had to cause the warning light to come on even though it's off now, having the battery more charged might not sort why it happened (but perhaps the alternator helping the battery or a reduction in the car's electrical load at the time might have prevented whatever caused the light to come on to trigger again).

 

I'm just looking at my thread and John510 put  - "(It seems Moll went bust about a year ago, so exact replacement was not possible)" and "during a chat with The Batteryshop I was told that Varta and Bosch batteries are made in the same factory in Spain."

 

And apparently when I was looking batteries were in short supply so prices were higher - just wait until late autumn and early winter and to Xmas and New Year, wot fun. 

 

And rum4mo correctly predicted that the previous battery coding for our car as per Skoda for the Moll battery was JCB and 1111111111 (which was just altered to Bosch and  1111111112).

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"I think that you will either find that Skoda filled in everything okay, or it will be as VW have done over a period in time, and that means the capacity and technology are correct, but the vendor is that good old VW Group default JCB - ie Johnson Controls and the serial number is 111111111111 - which is a bit silly as the BEM label carries all the info including the serial number, regardless if the full BEM codes are not needed on these cars.

 

HTH.

 

Four main set of battery specs below if you really want to know.

CCAspecs.pdf

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The enduroline battery works for you If I need a battery I will get one of these

The Enduroline battery is on my 1973 MG Midget (which has next to nothing electrical on it, no radio or fag socket even).

 

The Enduroline 027 is 5 years warranty so that's good (as opposed to 3, or 4), I've no idea who makes the battery, it's weight or anything else but to be fair to Tayna they don't always give them the 'Star Buy' sticker in the selection (I think it was on the Bosch when I bought ours (at higher price than now. 😛

 

 

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Thanks for all the help

No problem, let us know how you get on.  It might take a while for a warning light reoccurrence, if it's going to, but if your wife notices any other improvements in the car it might be because of more battery power.

 

Personally I'd always also resynchronise both keyfobs - and use both keyfobs alternately so that way you know where they both are and that they both work and to even out the wear on the key blades, locks and keyfob batteries.   Details of key synchroising are in the 'Operating Manual' (Driver's Handbook) (see below).

 

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Had the battery changed and alternator checked. It has happened again car started juddering. After the Skoda garage said they couldn't find anything wrong, I got my wife to take a picture of the Vehicle Status and it came up ERROR: start-stop system. Any ideas? will have to con tact Skoda garage tomorrow.

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Did you get the new battery coded?

 

Have you tried disconnecting the battery/stop-start at the battery earth terminal to see if that clears things?

 

The battery program is so invasive I'm not sure if it gets more complicated with DSG.

 

10 minutes ago, nta16 said:

the battery/stop-start at the battery earth terminal

 

 

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Yes, the battery was coded. Wife still at work so will disconnect at the battery tomorrow. When you restart the car the next time the EPC light goes out as normal and the error message is not there. If I disconnect the connector I will only know if that has worked if it doesn't happen again. I took almost 3 weeks for the problem to re-occur. Doesn't disconnecting the connector permanently disable stop start?

All battery connections (post, inside of battery post clamps) clean and in good condition and firmly fitted, battery firmly clamped, earth connection to body good?

 

Yes disconnecting the start-stop connector will disable the function but not the car so you can give it a try but now you've seen an error message it should be there for a scan tool to find, perhaps along with others.  The computers and programs on these cars are very (over?) complicated and very (over?) invasive.

 

I lifted this about VW just to give an example, you really need a full list of the current error codes and someone who knows how to interpret or advance them. -

 

". . . the EPC sensor has given the computer information that caused the vehicle to be put into limp-in mode. Potential issues can include:

Malfunctions with fuel metering, timing or emissions systems

Engine speed sensor failure

Problems with other sensors such as the crank or cam position sensor, mass airflow sensor, even the brake light switch

Traction control problems

Vehicle stability control problems

Cruise control issues

Throttle pedal issues".

 

 

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This is the 2nd time this has happened in three weeks. I am pretty sure this error code would have come up the first time but my wife restarted the car before calling me. I didn't get a code on my scanner and neither did the Skoda dealership on there diagnostic equipment. I will call them tomorrow. I will also disconnect the connector on the battery.

This can be an issue with rely on error codes, sometimes the problem or issue isn't enough out of whack for the program's parameter - but if an error has shown I would have thought it ought to record but I'm not a VW computer program, you shouldn't need a photo of such things as proof of them happening,

 

Some scan tools can only go so far or deep into these things, you'd hope the Dealership would have the full diagnostics and fully up to date but who knows, perhaps they only have one and only one person that really understands it and the one machine is stuck on another car and the person is away from work that understands it (? ! ! ?), otherwise why can't the Dealership give reports or let you see the person and machine in use.

 

The VW systems are know to be very complicated -  it has been proved that they are very sophisticated in operation, cough!

 

I just think removing one lot of invasive programming might help but of course it still leaves plenty of others and it could be some silly minor part playing up or sensor, wires, connections (though you'd hope those'd throw up communication error codes).

 

I'm ****ed-off about this as I can see our Fabia perhaps going this way and all more recent cars even worse, bad enough the PCs playing up intermittently after MS updates, the joy of not know which will play up after.

 

Of course if you've been driving your car along a river that might upset those computers and wiring and connections.

 

And if this only happens when your wife is driving the car then she'll have to go! 😁

 

Good luck, let us know how you get along

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I'll just take it back to the dealership. Thanks for your input

Sorry I couldn't help, I do think it could be so many possible things that it needs a full deep scan as things are so interlinked, brakes, transmission, engine, just about anything.  If the car was under warranty you could perhaps demand a Skoda UK Technician (if such still exists) if the Dealership say they can find no codes and nothing wrong.  Your photo should prevent any questioning of it being you or your wife misunderstanding what had happened.

 

Good luck.

 

ETA: It didn't happen whilst driving passed a G5 mast or E10 pump did it?  😉

  

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You did, I kicked the wife out lol

3 minutes ago, Mikerp said:

You did, I kicked the wife out lol

Oh, no, that was a mistake!  Always kick the car out

 

. . . well at least first.* 😁

 

 

 

 

 

 

* I am totally joking, my wife has put up with me for 44 years so I totally know how good it is to have and value a life-partner

 

- kids today just don't know how to suffer a long-term partnership. 😅

 

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We have been together 36 years and it's been the best 2 weeks of my life hahaha

Loving this thread :D

41 minutes ago, Mikerp said:

and it's been the best 2 weeks of my life

 . . . if only they'd been consecutive days. 🙃

 

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LOL

Lots, or many, or some, low level priority faults, nowadays do get removed from the relevant controller's memory, so as said they do disappear.

 

A couple that I used to see logged then without clearing them notice that they had "gone" a month later were "infotainment switch error" and "something concerning the mechanical side of the AC compressor" - the infotainment switch issue was not something that I had ever been aware of so ignored getting that looked into and I've only ever noticed it returning and remaining long enough to get spotted once or twice. The AC compressor mechanical issue, again I was never aware of any limitation of the availability of the AC though we don't need to use it for chilling the air much up North, that one, I think that I read, was addressed by VW Group and resolved by a S/W update, though I'd doubt if that car ever got the update as they are usually only bothered with on demand by the customer.

 

My old 1991 VX Cav GSI 2000 16V 4X4, used to do what was called "esponging" of all "now not present" logged faults - probably the wrong spelling but a word that sounds like the correct term - so nothing new there!  VW Group, on cars which had a fault logged but that fault was now not present, used to clear them from bringing on the dashboard warning light - if they were a high priority fault that warranted that, after so many engine starts, but still leave them in the relevant controller's memory which seemed like a good plan

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Car booked in for next Thursday. 

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