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@Ootohere Yes that dafty in a Taycan is a bit of a drama queen at times, however I wouldn't dismiss everything as BS. Of course, being in electric car is not worse than being in a microwave, within a very short shift he would have been reduced to a pile of steaming hot ready cooked meat if he was in a microwave 🤣 but the actual of radiation might well have an accumulative effect that might  become apparent further down the road, we just don't know for certain.

Plus of course he did state that he does not read instructions, so the possibility exists that he is using that meter incorrectly, lets see what the next video says about it.

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speaking of FOS


oooof

 

 

2 hours ago, Winston_Woof said:

speaking of FOS


oooof

Sooooo, "Lots Of Trouble, Usually Serious" have developed a way of turning $2.3 million into lots of tyre smoke and splintered carbon fibre in about 5 seconds?  ;) 

1 hour ago, Paws4Thot said:

Sooooo, "Lots Of Trouble, Usually Serious" have developed a way of turning $2.3 million into lots of tyre smoke and splintered carbon fibre in about 5 seconds?  ;) 

it's quite impressive in a way :)

10 minutes ago, Winston_Woof said:

it's quite impressive in a way :)

'Computer says NO' 😬

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He is a 'martyr' suffering as he does doing so many miles and charging and filming just so that he can save us from having to.

What a hero he is doing his job as a film maker.  Obviously the car and the expense of running it for his business has no help from HMRS / Tax Payers.    , ???? What kind of readings do you get in a house or building with one of the things he is using?  

 

 

 

 

 

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Not busy.   Empty at airport and all working.  Always an idiot takes the end bay and stops that being used by those needing that when the chargers are all occupied.  58 pence a kWh. 

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A farse at the Open Golf at Troon.  Diesel generators providing charging at a farm out of town for the Official vehicles, players and VIP transport by BEV,s.      EDIT, my bad.  HVO powered generators.  Bio-diesel.  Waste products and feed stock.    So very very Green. 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Ootohere said:

He is a 'martyr' suffering as he does doing so many miles and charging and filming just so that he can save us from having to.

What a hero he is doing his job as a film maker.  Obviously the car and the expense of running it for his business has no help from HMRS / Tax Payers.

 

That being said, you have to give him some brownie points though because there is a lot of truth in some of those points he raised, now I don't expect you to agree with some of them as you actually have an electric car and so you are living with some of the issues he highlights but have just accepted those as part of the experience. He did clearly show that there was a queue on day 1 (because the muppet got his setting wrong, he had to go back and re-record some of it) but on day 2 there was no queue and this was in spite of some EV owners previously saying that these events never happened to them and that he must have stage-managed them for effect. I seriously doubt that for a single minute, these are I believe his own true experinces as it happened on the day / time filmed. The only way that anybody can 100% honestly claim anything else, is if they were actually there with him at the same time.

 

As to the electrical fields and the magnetic fields having no ill effects on the human body, I can't really vouch for that, yes some people claim there is, others claim the opposite, some wear a magnetic bracelet and swear that it helps with rheumatism etc, again, that is their belief, is it mind over matter, or is there some benefit to be gained? 

 

But what is 100% guaranteed is that today we are far more exposed to these fields then we used to be years ago, there are also more radio waves, particularly high frequency ones and more radar like, those on shop doors that will automatically open when you approach them, and the other thing similarly guaranteed is that there are more cases of Cancer than there were years ago.  

 

I'm not saying that there is any linkage between these, but the fact remains that we really just do not know for sure either way, an open mind is an inquisitive mind, others might call it a conspiracy theory, but only time will tell us for certain.

100% guaranteed that we are exposed to radar on automatic shop doors 🤯

 

What were you buying, WMD's?

 

My mother died of cancer at the same age and in pretty much the same manner as her mother before her but it was either not diagnosed  or recorded as such in those days.

3 minutes ago, J.R. said:

100% guaranteed that we are exposed to radar on automatic shop doors 🤯

 

What were you buying, WMD's?

 

My mother died of cancer at the same age and in pretty much the same manner as her mother before her but it was either not diagnosed  or recorded as such in those days.

Are you not aware that the these doors use low power radar to detect when people are approaching them? They cannot use passive infra-red detectors as these will vary their performances due to the ambient air temperature. Some speed cameras use radar to detect speeding motorists etc.

Simples, unless an employer forces you to be driving an EV then do not if you do not want to.

If Self Employed so your own boss then just say no, unless you want to be filming yourself and talking about charging times,

or getting a nice car and tax breaks to be driving a BEV. 

 

Leaving the house and going to do your job filming, setting up, messing about and taking a lot more time than the charging actually takes. 

(get plugged in before wandering off for a drink that costs about 10 kWh of electricity and you have just left the house...)

 

30 pence a kWh.

100 kWh = £30.

Taking you 300 miles. if even just 3 miles a kWh.   

350 if 3.5 miles a kWh.    

 

50 mpg vehicles and 350 miles, 7 gallons @ £6.82 = £47.74

45 mpg & 350 miles , 7.7 gallons = £52.51

 

 

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1 hour ago, Graham Butcher said:

Are you not aware that the these doors use low power radar to detect when people are approaching them

 

No was not aware, every one that I have installed used PIR or combined PIR/Microwave for detection but that was 20 years ago.

 

With the spaced out queues post Covid people frequently end up standing just inside the doors internal sensor, happened to me not 20 minutes ago at the Pharmacie, you only need to shift your shoulders whilst standing still to give a false opening signal, definitely not Radar when that happens. But hey, if you guarantee 100% they are radar what do I know!

 

I see Geze use them now, they were my manufacturer of choice.

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Passive IR, pressure sensors, optical sensors LASER sensors etc. No mention of RADAR in this piece 🤷‍♂️ 

https://www.azosensors.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=2621 

https://www.gdukds.com/news-media/how-do-automatic-door-systems-actually-work/ 

OK there is in this piece. Are they uncommon now?

https://www.safetell.co.uk/insights/what-sensors-are-used-in-automatic-doors/#:~:text=Radar movement sensors use radar,direction they are coming from.

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32 minutes ago, J.R. said:

 

No was not aware, every one that I have installed used PIR or combined PIR/Microwave for detection but that was 20 years ago.

 

With the spaced out queues post Covid people frequently end up standing just inside the doors internal sensor, happened to me not 20 minutes ago at the Pharmacie, you only need to shift your shoulders whilst standing still to give a false opening signal, definitely not Radar when that happens. But hey, if you guarantee 100% they are radar what do I know!

 

I see Geze use them now, they were my manufacturer of choice.

Before the use of GPS based speed camera detectors, they sensed radar wave lengths (so I'm informed) and when going close to shopping malls, airport terminals etc, they would give false reactions as if there was a speed camera. Police used to use radar guns before they switched over to lasers and the old detectors would also warn of them. These days you are only allowed to use GPS detectors as they only warn of the proximity of a camera, they cannot detect if they are functioning, unlike the old radar detector type could.

I just watched this video of a delivery driver taking a Renault Zoe from Cornwell to Corby, any Zoe owners care to comment on this at all, I have zero idea if this is correct, but I have no reason to doubt it either?

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

I just watched this video of a delivery driver taking a Renault Zoe from Cornwell to Corby, any Zoe owners care to comment on this at all, I have zero idea if this is correct, but I have no reason to doubt it either?

 

 

 

165 miles range is about the worse I have seen in mid winter and normal range is 200 miles to 240 miles.

 

He left Cambourne and should have easily made Exeter services which has dozens of chargers.

 

He must be a combination of one of the worst drivers and journey planners. 

 

Zoe seats are not the best for 250 mile drives, two hours is enough for me and if I am doing such journeys would use the Arkana but the Zoe battery range, if driven with any intelligence, one stop for charge, if about 45 mins should be fine for Camborne to Corby.

 

Optimum cruise speed is about 64 mph, can be put in eco mode and the range will be 200 miles plus in any season.  Make sure tyres are all over 40 psi, relax and chill and one can make good headway.

 

Guy is a click bait idiot.

 

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35 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

 

165 miles range is about the worse I have seen in mid winter and normal range is 200 miles to 240 miles.

 

He left Cambourne and should have easily made Exeter services which has dozens of chargers.

 

He must be a combination of one of the worst drivers and journey planners. 

 

Zoe seats are not the best for 250 mile drives, two hours is enough for me and if I am doing such journeys would use the Arkana but the Zoe battery range, if driven with any intelligence, one stop for charge, if about 45 mins should be fine for Camborne to Corby.

 

Optimum cruise speed is about 64 mph, can be put in eco mode and the range will be 200 miles plus in any season.  Make sure tyres are all over 40 psi, relax and chill and one can make good headway.

 

Guy is a click bait idiot.

 

Well you say that he is a click bait idiot and yet my TomTom route finder has just selected the same route as that he took, Exeter, Gloucester etc right through to Corby. Ok admittedly it does not yet take into account charging points, but that is most certainly the fastest and most direct route, which is exactly the route I would expect that anyone who is getting paid by the trip, rather than by the hour or someone doing that journey for pleasure would take. Don't forget, that it was not his car, he was just taking it from point A to point B for a client.

 

What about the chargers and the issues he had there then?

 

Renault Zoe should have tyre pressures of 36psi, 40psi is going to cause them to wear incorrectly in the centre of the tread instead of all over the width of the tyre, also result in a car that is going to be more prone to slipping and skidding on wet road surfaces.

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This video does not present Chinese EV cars in a very good light, in fact judging by what it shows, they are very dangerous, that said we have to rely on the presenter to portray the truth as some of the video has people discussing the cars but of course it is in Chinese and not being able to understand what they are saying, we have to rely on the presenter being factual.

 

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Must've been truly terrifying:

 

 

Gaz

 

14 minutes ago, Gaz said:

Must've been truly terrifying:

 

 

Gaz

 

That one was literally just around the corner from where I live. 
 

Whilst there’s no doubt it’s a sad event and the family are lucky to be with us until the actual cause is identified then it’s only supposition the incident was caused by the high voltage battery in this HEV. 
 

Many fires in all sorts of different vehicles are caused by faulty 12v electrics. 

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