7 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

I know he can not other than Energy and the Power UK, Defence and some other stuff.  

So just say that clearly for the not so up on anything dafties about.

& the SKY and BBC presenters and New Editors with these organisations could just point this out. 

 

So he speaks about British People, fair enough, people in British, be them British or not.

Then he goes on about the Country, then The Nation.

The Country is England, the Nation might be, or the 4 countries, Nations, or might be the 'Great Britain & Northern Ireland, ie The UK. 

 

Wales has an Assembly /  Parliament, and is a Principality. 

North Ireland has an Assembly. Powers to make laws.

 

So would you rather he said "We the UK Government are going to do (x) in England, we cannot do it in the devolved nations and principalities because you wanted your own control."

 

Every time he makes a statement.

@Graham ButcherYes, as we have been discussing.  Yet another Click bait merchant that reports the press /media for us.

He makes many comments and exaggerations. 

 

@Stonekeeper  Just say in England if it is only England. 

 

 ( and then the other countries get their percentage when applicable. ) Devolved is devolved, as those in the countries devolved might know, 

but BBC & SKY reporters seem not to. 

Edited 7 December, 20241 yr by Ootohere

In Labour's first budget

 

Devolved government funding - to receive an additional £6.6bn through the operation of the Barnett formula in 2025-26 (£3.4bn for the Scottish Government, £1.7bn for the Welsh Government and £1.5bn for the Northern Ireland Executive)

 

 

Yes,

And much will go to pay National Insurance Increases to NHS and Contractors, Care Providers, employees etc not protected as the NHS is in England is. 

 

 

Edited 7 December, 20241 yr by Ootohere

Volkswagen in dire trouble, I don't always agree with the Electric Viking, but I do on this occasion. This culture of treating the workers and often the customers badly while paying the shareholders and senior massive dividends.

 

 

@Graham Butcher  Did you notice that the gentleman with the Scottish accent has the video about the shortage of petrol cars has an arrow pointing at a Mini Cooper SE (Electric car) on a Production line in China. That is where they are built.  There was a suspension of the hand over of MINI,s BMW,s Rolls Royce RV,s because of the brake issues.

There is no rationing of BMW / MINI petrol vehicles as BMW / MINI have more than met their 22% First Registration Target. 

Go to any BMW / MIN Dealers today and petrol cars new / pre reg are ready to go, or cars are on their way from which ever country, Oxford England for petrol MINI,s.

 

 

Edited 7 December, 20241 yr by Ootohere

37 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

Yes,

And much will go to pay National Insurance Increases to NHS and Contractors, Care Providers, employees etc not protected as the NHS is in England is. 

 

 

 

I do not know if these public services use salary sacrifice or they are getting non contributory pension building.

 

In my case with HMRC there was only 1 5% spouse/widows pension to cover the 50% of calculated pension that my spouse would get if I died in service. That, and an other pension contribution, like Aditional Voluntary Contributions, should go under the Salary Sacrifice scheme so more gets in to the pension and public servants have the same rules as private sector workers IMO.

 

^^^ Who gives a sh!te other than those benefiting. 

 More public money needs spent to employ employees, and the public money comes from more Taxing.

Swings and roundabouts.  

Public spending / money wasted on not fit for purpose schemes needs dealt with.  The Scottish Government are experts at that. 

 

2 hours ago, Ootohere said:

^^^ Who gives a sh!te other than those benefiting. 

 More public money needs spent to employ employees, and the public money comes from more Taxing.

Swings and roundabouts.  

Public spending / money wasted on not fit for purpose schemes needs dealt with.  The Scottish Government are experts at that. 

 

We certainly do as employers as employees work out just what a civil/public service pension is worth.  We have had employees leave us to go to the civil service, money is the same but even people in their thirties can work out that the public servant pension is so good, worth up to 30% over and above the salary.  If men are 20-25 years retired, women 25-30 years retired on average then only a fool would not work out just how to have a whole life comfortable financial life.

 

Of course all of us who pays taxes a portion of that goes to support some public service pay which is paid out of UK current account rather than a fund of billions as it would be for a private sector pension.  Of course changing the retirement age from 60 to 65 for most jobs.  Also have a bad NHS and other factors has meant average lifespans men and women has not really increased fora decade or more as it was before.

 

To public spend we need to collect it. Oddly we will be collecting quite a bit of pensioners as well as those working with the frozen tax bands. The Gov gives and takes back in the same stroke.

 

Those needing cancer treatment or an operation they wait years for from the NHS might well be prepared to give up their pension or savings to get it done private.

They might well wish their employment meant Private Health Care or they have paid for their Private Health Care Cover. 

 

As for the I am alright Jacks, with Salary Sacrifice to buy a car, that is how the system is. 

That is how the UK is, social divides, have an have not's and lowest earners pay what ever without choices and those doing rather well and not just getting by can use the system.

 

Nice if you can work the Taxation to suit and there is a good Public Health System for all from taxation. 

Edited 7 December, 20241 yr by Ootohere

3 hours ago, Ootohere said:

Those needing cancer treatment or an operation they wait years for from the NHS might well be prepared to give up their pension or savings to get it done private.

They might well wish their employment meant Private Health Care or they have paid for their Private Health Care Cover. 

 

As for the I am alright Jacks, with Salary Sacrifice to buy a car, that is how the system is. 

That is how the UK is, social divides, have an have not's and lowest earners pay what ever without choices and those doing rather well and not just getting by can use the system.

 

Nice if you can work the Taxation to suit and there is a good Public Health System for all from taxation. 

 

The UK government, of whatever flavour, come up with policy to influence consumers and achieve policies like the EV mandate. The Con governments have implemented the 22% target with penalties and the EV salary sacrifice system to encourage EV take up and Labour have continued the policy in its few months in office.

 

Labour has introduced a fairly large jump in minimum wage and done this when inflation is low which, both apparently the CBI, applaud. 

 

UK society was, is and will very for years to come an unfair society. Rules like thr MD of companies like John Lewis would not be paid more than a certain ratio more than their lowest paid worker did no catch on sadly.

 

Companies can do a lot more they they currently do. Providing EV charger cards an not only hydrocarbon ones would be one area as well get a move on with salary sacrifice ev schemes which are available for companies like Octopus.

 

NI rises is to start rebuilding the NHS but it is a long road after a decade and a half of under investment in public health service. When I get offered Private medical through work I refuse it. 

 

12 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

 

The UK government, of whatever flavour, come up with policy to influence consumers and achieve policies like the EV mandate. The Con governments have implemented the 22% target with penalties and the EV salary sacrifice system to encourage EV take up and Labour have continued the policy in its few months in office.

 

Labour has introduced a fairly large jump in minimum wage and done this when inflation is low which, both apparently the CBI, applaud. 

 

UK society was, is and will very for years to come an unfair society. Rules like thr MD of companies like John Lewis would not be paid more than a certain ratio more than their lowest paid worker did no catch on sadly.

 

Companies can do a lot more they they currently do. Providing EV charger cards an not only hydrocarbon ones would be one area as well get a move on with salary sacrifice ev schemes which are available for companies like Octopus.

 

NI rises is to start rebuilding the NHS but it is a long road after a decade and a half of under investment in public health service. When I get offered Private medical through work I refuse it. 

 

Problem with all these schemes is that they are always in favour of working people, and then those are only for those fortunate to be working for a largish company, there is nothing for those working for small family businesses etc or those retired, carers etc.

"A fairly large jump in the minimum wage."   What crap.

take into account those just having an increase on their Mobile phone / Broadband, their car insurance, the rent, council tax, heating, water, food.

 

Low inflation is a total kidology.   Road fuels down some and stuff that people might not be able to afford because they have a Minimum wage rise from £11.44 to £12.21.

39 hour week and gross of £446/16 to £476.19 if over 21 years old.

Under 18 / Apprentice £7.55 an hour,  18-20 £10 an hour. 

 

 

1 hour ago, Ootohere said:

"A fairly large jump in the minimum wage."   What crap.

take into account those just having an increase on their Mobile phone / Broadband, their car insurance, the rent, council tax, heating, water, food.

 

Low inflation is a total kidology.   Road fuels down some and stuff that people might not be able to afford because they have a Minimum wage rise from £11.44 to £12.21.

39 hour week and gross of £446/16 to £476.19 if over 21 years old.

Under 18 / Apprentice £7.55 an hour,  18-20 £10 an hour. 

 

 

 

I would like to have seen ot up to 14 or 15 £ per hour and Amazon's cross docking station in Coventry up their base wage up to this level after nearly voting to get unionised.

 

But the outcry by employers, CBI etc warning of redundancies of any payrises above inflation. 

 

I hope Labour can force through rises of several percent above inflation for each of the 4 years left of their term so we get to that £15 an hour by 2028.

 

Tax allowances rising asap to keep tax recovery down to something tiny.

 

The French had a super deal for 100k of their citizens so so paid could get EVs, like the Dacia Spring for 99 Euros a month, good idea in my opinion. We Brits are suppose to be an innovative bunch but sometimes I wonder if we have lost that facet.

 

I read today that despite the cost of a pint of beer being £8 (really????) it is no more expensive in real terms as a worker on an average wage can buy 4 pints with an hours pay.

 

Rubbish was my instant reaction but I have not earned a wage since 1983 or bought a pint of beer since 2009.

11 hours ago, Graham Butcher said:

Er excuse me, but yes I did, I provided a document that spelled it out, issued by the government for their own private government only city centre car parks around Westminster, back at the time when we last had this discussion.

Sorry, I didn't recall that and my forum search didn't come up with anything. Do you mind linking to that post?

Just with road cars EVs are quicker and we see the tech spec of Gen 3 EVO racers first race in Brazil this weekend.........

 

https://www.fiaformulae.com/en/news/508043

 

Key technical enhancements for the new GEN3 Evo race car include:

• The quickest accelerating FIA single-seater race car – Capable of 0-60mph in 1.82 seconds (0-100kph in 1.86s), 30% faster than a current F1 car.
• Faster, stronger, more agile – Performance upgrades providing an estimated 2% performance gain from GEN3, equating to a c.2 secs faster qualifying lap on the Monaco circuit, offering world-class racing on any track.
• Leaner and meaner – An aggressive new body kit designed to be stronger, more robust and more aerodynamic, delivering closer wheel-to-wheel racing.
• All-wheel drive (AWD) –A first for a Formula E car, available during qualifying duels, race starts, and ATTACK MODE. This feature maximizes acceleration and control, elevating the thrill of critical race moments and intensifying driver rivalries. AWD enhances both performance and strategy, providing more exciting racing for drivers and fans alike.
• Better grip – Optimised all-weather Hankook iON tires providing 5-10% more grip, made from 35% recycled and sustainable materials (+9% vs GEN3 spec).

 

Edited 8 December, 20241 yr by lol-lol

 

8 minutes ago, Stonekeeper said:

 

 

Sales plummeting ?

 

Over a quarter of last month's registrations were EVs in the UK !

In the world largest market over half of sales are EVs.

Model Y is still world best selling car is it not ?

 

36 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

 

Sales plummeting ?

 

Over a quarter of last month's registrations were EVs in the UK !

In the world largest market over half of sales are EVs.

Model Y is still world best selling car is it not ?

 

 

Yes, but don't run away with the idea that a registration means a sale, it doesn't!

But the question is are Registrations sales?

 

Some manufacturers have a mountain to climb this month so Decembers figures will be interesting.

29 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

Yes, but don't run away with the idea that a registration means a sale, it doesn't!

 

It will have cheaper to sell the cars hire companies or dealers at a lower price that take a hit on the failure to hit the 22% levy.

Some drivers would hopefully get a bit of a bargain in the near future.

I know the Meganes have been quite heavily discounted, especially those without heat pumps.  Inferior battery technology too put PDQ but a bit crammed.

So many good EVs just a few months away but we have to wait for the manufacturers to get round to producing RHD ones after the first batch of LHD ones.

 

On 03/12/2024 at 11:47, Graham Butcher said:

I think predicting the end of fossil fuels is a bit to early in my view. Yes no doubt there will come a time when  fossil fuel will cease to be extracted, there cannot be an endless supply of it at the rate we are using it, the end is a certainty at some point. 

There are synthetic alternatives that can be made from waste &/or plant material.

https://www.fuelsandlubes.com/zero-partners-with-rolls-royce-to-advance-synthetic-fuels/

8 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

 

It will have cheaper to sell the cars hire companies or dealers at a lower price that take a hit on the failure to hit the 22% levy.

Some drivers would hopefully get a bit of a bargain in the near future.

I know the Meganes have been quite heavily discounted, especially those without heat pumps.  Inferior battery technology too put PDQ but a bit crammed.

So many good EVs just a few months away but we have to wait for the manufacturers to get round to producing RHD ones after the first batch of LHD ones.

 

 

Jan - Mar is going to be a bumper sales time and some bargains to be had for those sitting on the fence Buy before end of March and no VED until 2026?

 

Over £40,000 car purchasers could save £2,000 in future ved payments

Edited 8 December, 20241 yr by Stonekeeper