5 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

Interesting video by Dave Takes It On, where he tests ignoring the system on a Tesla which is telling him that he needs a charging stop to complete the planned trip. Then the car suddenly tells him (which he knew it would) that if he were to keep below 50mph, he should be able to make the trip and arrive with about -3% of range left.

So, is it another way to slow down travel in the interests of road safety? The same argument that Wales used when dropping 30mph roads down to 20mph? Similar to what our government are planning to do on rural roads?

He is not as smart as he thinks he is.

Tesla are known, like Renaults, for having substantial sub 0% buffers.

He makes too much of being a few miles short of range to charging station.

He recently moved from a S to an 3. According to Bjorn Nylands testing and did over 30 miles past 0% SoC.

Drama queen who should know better.

Is this purely Motorways in England with EV drivers that are on a go slow because too tight to pay public charging? @lol-lol did the same in ICE vehicles to hypermile. I did sometimes, but i would use a fast Coach that apparently had no max speed limits and would be happy to exceed even 70 mph. Winter night time i did draft hgv,s in my Corsa E. But twice was stopped by police because tgey were high value whiskey lorries anx the drivers called thd police. ABERDEEN bypass.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by Evolution13

9 minutes ago, Evolution13 said:

Is this purely Motorways in England with EV drivers that are on a go slow because too tight to pay public charging? @lol-lol did the same in ICE vehicles to hypermile. I did sonetimes, but i would use a fast Coach that apparently had no max speed limits and would be happy to exceed even 70 mph. Winter night time i did draft hgv,s in my Corsa E. But twice was stopped by police because tgey were high value whiskey lorries anx the drivers called thd police. ABERDEEN bypass.

I tend to find just cruising with the trucks, safe distance but bit of aero assist so around the 56 mph they are doing. Would not do 50 mph and mess up the trucks by forcing them to pass. False economy, better to do 56 in their slip stream.

You don't work 25 years in logistics, and have an uncle who owned/ ran 50 Artics, and have lots of sympathy for truckers. I like trucking and I like to truck.

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27 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

Tesla are known, like Renaults, for having substantial sub 0% buffers.

He makes too much of being a few miles short of range to charging station.

His trip is entirely on the motorway, maybe he doesn't gamble with £100 fine and three penalty points

No @lol-lol but an Uncle with a haulage company with a few trucks and another whos business was buiding and construction with dozens of vans and lorries. Places to go, work and get home again. But then no Motorways north of Perth and few dual carraigeways back in the day.

5 minutes ago, Stonekeeper said:

His trip is entirely on the motorway, maybe he doesn't gamble with £100 fine and three penalty points

But it was not a gamble as he could have gone many miles beyond zero no bother. Push it to the extreme, sort of well past 20 miles past 0% SoC then he might have risked conking out but a few odd miles, no worries.

Tesla model 3, in BJ's run until it stops did show model 3 did somewhat quit rather abruptly which showed Teslas, like him, are not quite a clever as some might think. LFP chemisty does seem to act a bit differently to NMC lithium.

7 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

But it was not a gamble as he could have gone many miles beyond zero no bother. Push it to the extreme, sort of well past 20 miles past 0% SoC then he might have risked conking out but a few odd miles, no worries.

Tesla model 3, in BJ's run until it stops did show model 3 did somewhat quit rather abruptly which showed Teslas, like him, are not quite a clever as some might think. LFP chemisty does seem to act a bit differently to NMC lithium.

But by the same token, it is true with ICE cars, but there is always the chance the actual estimation is correct. There will always be tolerances and margins in all of these things. Surely the sensible thing to do is to accept what the car is telling you in order to do your very best not to get stranded. The sane thing to do is to react correctly in the same way was you would do if a engine warning light came on?

1 hour ago, lol-lol said:

The new T pylons are some much less obtrusive. Shorter, squat. Saw a row of them from the M5 which are in place to take power from Hinkley C to the high voltage national grid. If tol many complaints then bury them like in Snowdonia. I gather Belgium is burying electricity lines as a national policy now.

Personally I find Tpylons more visually intrusive due to the solid thicker columns, as opposed to traditional lattice pylons.

Also the height they are at is more related to conductor type and not the pylon itself

57 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

He is not as smart as he thinks he is.

Tesla are known, like Renaults, for having substantial sub 0% buffers.

He makes too much of being a few miles short of range to charging station.

He recently moved from a S to an 3. According to Bjorn Nylands testing and did over 30 miles past 0% SoC.

Drama queen who should know better.

But maybe typical of most UK drivers??

Today 150 miles done in 2 3/4 hours. Half Motorway & with 20 miles range left. from a £3.50 Home charge. Charging now @ 55 pence a kWh so it will be £25 to get home with enough miles range for any diversions & hopefully no need to charge. Likely slower going home with traffic & time of day. No plan for keeping the speed down below the speed limits, or drafting or switching off the AC. Smallish battery and if even just 5% battery left and 10 miles to go i would stop and put in some charge as anything can happen in that 10 or so miles.

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/modely/en_us/GUID-CB07D968-612A-4FAB-977D-CD01C69464D0.html

I wonder if the car records how low you let it go for Battery warranty use..

16 minutes ago, Stonekeeper said:

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/modely/en_us/GUID-CB07D968-612A-4FAB-977D-CD01C69464D0.html

I wonder if the car records how low you let it go for Battery warranty use..

It wouldn't surprise me. They used the recorded data that the Jag had stored to get a conviction.

40 minutes ago, Evolution13 said:

Today 150 miles done in 2 3/4 hours. Half Motorway & with 20 miles range left. from a £3.50 Home charge. Charging now @ 55 pence a kWh so it will be £25 to get home with enough miles range for any diversions & hopefully no need to charge. Likely slower going home with traffic & time of day. No plan for keeping the speed down below the speed limits, or drafting or switching off the AC. Smallish battery and if even just 5% battery left and 10 miles to go i would stop and put in some charge as anything can happen in that 10 or so miles.

What would be the minimum amount you can put in the battery at public chargers?

5 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

What would be the minimum amount you can put in the battery at public chargers?

I don't think there is a minimum. I have plugged in it starts and when i come back it had stopped after 1kw and i have had to start again.