I liked this Alpine with just some blue trim. Dogs out for whatever before trip. Anyway. An early start and only 6 degrees C, lots of rain and today that ment 20-30 miles less range than over the past weeks of higher temps. Meant charging to add a few miles before my destination just 5 miles further on. New chargers going in hopefully.

Edited yesterday at 10:101 day by Evolution13

5 hours ago, Evolution13 said:

I liked this Alpine with just some blue trim. Dogs out for whatever before trip. Anyway. An early start and only 6 degrees C, lots of rain and today that ment 20-30 miles less range than over the past weeks of higher temps. Meant charging to add a few miles before my destination just 5 miles further on. New chargers going in hopefully.

Not found if the Alpine 290 is getting the same upgrades the R5 in the aero and battery department but it should see a few more miles range.

I would be keen to try both the upgrade R5s and the upgrade Scenics, would avoid even more of the public charges.

Just hope they come to the UK as we do get a restricted list of Renault and I would presume other marques too.

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/renault/5/370305/updated-renault-5-offers-more-range-more-google-tech-and-even-more-style

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/renault/scenic/370350/new-renault-scenic-embarrasses-tesla-model-y-range-again

New 67 Kwh Scenic should be well under £30k for a very roomy car and have the LFP charging to 100% being no worries.

Edited 19 hours ago19 hr by lol-lol

6 hours ago, Evolution13 said:

I liked this Alpine with just some blue trim. Dogs out for whatever before trip. Anyway. An early start and only 6 degrees C, lots of rain and today that ment 20-30 miles less range than over the past weeks of higher temps. Meant charging to add a few miles before my destination just 5 miles further on. New chargers going in hopefully.

Blimey that Alpine is ugly! Too much 'addenda' at the front and the wheels are awful!

All in my opinion of course...

Girvan harbour DC charger only 1 in town and 5 weeks I have been reporting out of service. Today I was there early before some teacher would put on AC charger all day even though max 5 hours. Car get charged and stays plugged in locked in. Not even moved at lunch time. So one car charging on B. Post A fails to start. I try 3 times. Then 3 times with electroverse. Then call CPS. Poor mobile reception area. Get the usual script. A fault with your card. I used it yesterday. Close windows and lock doors. I tell him that makes no difference and never ever has. He tells me charger working and he can not start remotely. I told him he can he is on a mobile to me and he is in Broughty Ferry and the SIM in the charger gets a signal. Phone goes dead. Charger starts. I try calling back as I want to report the big charger. No signal. Then he calls me. I give him charger number and he says he will check. He says out if service 4 weeks. I said 6 and 5 since I first reported. Line went dead. Got a call to do satisfaction survey just now.

PS. So 45 minutes & it had charged 2.2 kWh. The other car plugged in is a 28 kW 2020 Hyundai Ionic and with 22 kW charger is only giving us 3 kW each not even 6 kW each. So likely in 5 hours plugged in max I get is 15 kW at 55 pence a kWh. I will be heading 4 miles to the Farm Shop to get a charge in the DC @ 55 pence a kWh.

Edited 3 hours ago3 hr by Evolution13

1 hour ago, Evolution13 said:

PS. So 45 minutes & it had charged 2.2 kWh. The other car plugged in is a 28 kW 2020 Hyundai Ionic and with 22 kW charger is only giving us 3 kW each not even 6 kW each. So likely in 5 hours plugged in max I get is 15 kW at 55 pence a kWh. I will be heading 4 miles to the Farm Shop to get a charge in the DC @ 55 pence a kWh.

That is not what you want to see is it, so further delays in getting a decent charge

10 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

That is not what you want to see is it, so further delays in getting a decent charge

Getting economic and logical to carry a power station and ones own solar panels perhaps.

With the right battery ie one that can supply 3.7 kws, and granny cable doing 16A and maybe some foldout portable solar panels one can have an onboard backup in the boot.

Also versions of onboard software coming out every few months and updated battery packs every 2 years the problem goes away.

What a load of total guff IMHO, unless maybe doing some world travelling in a region that is not the UK. Scotland just happens to have 32 local authorities and many of these have no commitment to helping get to net zero with the upkeep of public ev chargers. £5 minimum charge here and i am at £6 after nearly 3 hours. Now 12 kWh of a charge. The other car must have unplugged and now i am getting 6 kW i expect.