5 minutes ago, Evolution13 said:

Misleading people getting an EV into believing that a 50 kW battery car is going to go 250 miles or more is pure misselling. When 200 miles sometimes might be possible in the right conditions. Sadly people believe brochures and sales staff.

Sadly, the entire EV industry is guilty of misinformation, and it starts right at the top with the legislators pushing towards an idealistic goal long before we have all the answers, a pattern that I have witnessed before. I don't really think that we can lay the entire blame at the motor trade's feet when they themselves are staring down the barrel of punitive fines for noncompliance with an over-optimistic mandatory target.

Also, sadly, the education system has been dumbed down so much that almost every school leaver qualifies to get a place at university, hence why we find graduates stacking shelves in supermarkets, as industry chiefs know that the qualifications gained in a lot of cases are inferior to those gained years ago.

Edited 6 hours ago6 hr by Graham Butcher

1 hour ago, Evolution13 said:

Misleading people getting an EV into believing that a 50 kW battery car is going to go 250 miles or more is pure misselling. When 200 miles sometimes might be possible in the right conditions. Sadly people believe brochures and sales staff.

Can be done, ie get WLTP range and more, only happens in exceptional circumstances ie battery over 15C and a driver who knows how to maximise regen. My son just drives our EVs, doesn't play with the regen paddles, draft that Transit van doing the 60 mph or so and that is fine but he's a smooth driver so get quite good milez per KWh.

The Mini EV progressively throttles power and is better than the Renaults for the novice but I don't think it will go much beyond 0%. The Renaults will go more the 5% past 0% before even warning of performance restriction. It will then go another 2 or 3% before conking out so my little 5's range in summeris over 200 miles and the Scenic is over 275 miles in truth before Restriction warning pops up and one really should charge up.

EVs BMS needs to be better and more consistent across the makes as the vary massively in how they inform and perform in the lower gentiles and negative of informed state of charge.

3 hours ago, lol-lol said:

Can be done, ie get WLTP range and more, only happens in exceptional circumstances ie battery over 15C and a driver who knows how to maximise regen. My son just drives our EVs, doesn't play with the regen paddles, draft that Transit van doing the 60 mph or so and that is fine but he's a smooth driver so get quite good milez per KWh.

The Mini EV progressively throttles power and is better than the Renaults for the novice but I don't think it will go much beyond 0%. The Renaults will go more the 5% past 0% before even warning of performance restriction. It will then go another 2 or 3% before conking out so my little 5's range in summeris over 200 miles and the Scenic is over 275 miles in truth before Restriction warning pops up and one really should charge up.

EVs BMS needs to be better and more consistent across the makes as the vary massively in how they inform and perform in the lower gentiles and negative of informed state of charge.

Yes, we accept that it is possible on a good day with the right conditions and the right support just as this diesel powered Skoda Superb managed to drive for 1,759 on one tank of fuel and it set a Guinness World Records record.

Record-Breaking Skoda Does 1,759 Miles on a Single Tank

Greatest distance driven on a single tank of fuel | Guinness World Records