4 minutes ago, Stonekeeper said:

EVs no dearer to repair for major components than ICE.

Would touch a passive cooled LEAF Mk 1 or 2. Shame as a British made car and I wanted to be patriotic and was ready to order the 60 KWh rather than the 39 KWh one but they were not available.

Good informative video but going to further damage the already shaky reputation of the first two models of the LEAFs.

Zoe's active air cooling better than LEAF passive system but now, and for several years all EVs are liquid cooled.

Much faster charging is result.

Similar happened with air and liquid cooled ICE cars and liquid cooling was a quantum change.

The issue of EV repairs are where you are in the UK, & transporting EV,s to repairers / distances. If you are lucky to be near ones that can do MAJOR repairs then good. As it is just getting EV,s or PHEV,s serviced or minor work might require using Main Dealers unless you are fortunate to have independent places or you can maybe use a Mobile EV Technician.

49 minutes ago, Stonekeeper said:

EVs no dearer to repair for major components than ICE.

The real issue here is that the big push towards electrification is happening before we have actually learned all there is to know about their varied failure modes and how to effectively repair them safely at the component level rather then complete assembly level. Governments are trying to run before they have effectively learnt to walk.

There is another good garage that can work on EVs in London and they have their own YT channel and website .

I have been watching their channel for a while now, and they are very impressive, but we need many more garages with their skills, and I have no doubt that we will get there eventually, but not before we will have many significant issues along the way
www.ogsmechanics.com

www.youtube.com/@OGSMechanics

12 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

The real issue here is that the big push towards electrification is happening before we have actually learned all there is to know about their varied failure modes and how to effectively repair them safely at the component level rather then complete assembly level. Governments are trying to run before they have effectively learnt to walk.

There is another good garage that can work on EVs in London and they have their own YT channel and website .

I have been watching their channel for a while now, and they are very impressive, but we need many more garages with their skills, and I have no doubt that we will get there eventually, but not before we will have many significant issues along the way
www.ogsmechanics.com

www.youtube.com/@OGSMechanics

We learnt quite quickly that air cooled EV battery packs were deficient in several ways.

Long been an engineering known issue. I had several triple cylinder engined motorbikes and the cylinder in the middle in these air cooled engines was oft a problem. Air cooled engines in beatles and Porsches getting thermal stress cracks between the inlet and exhaust valves too.

Just amazing how long Nissan kept on with the deficient LEAF 1 and 2 basic design.

Cars would Rapidgate when second chargibg on a trip ie so hot the the system would throttle to such an extent you coukd have a 4 course meal waiting for it to get enough charge. My 52 KWh Zoe would not even hit 50 KWh charging and if ambient was more than 40 C, more common with Global warming, well forget it.

Problems solved with liquid colling and charge curves are twice as quick and flatter even in very hot weather.

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Biulding rumours that pay per mile we be extended to all cars.

It is expected that excuse duty on fuel will be cut in the budget but to keep the Treasury receipts up pay per mile will be for all cars.

Sounds fairer I reckon.

Spreading rumours is a way of The Government flying kites. Who started the rumour as far as you can see @lol-lol the Daily Express. AI might have it repeated as started by you.

6 minutes ago, Evolution13 said:

Spreading rumours is a way of The Government flying kites. Who started the rumour as far as you can see @lol-lol the Daily Express. AI might have it repeated as started by you.

Good political mood gauging.

The Express, Mail and Torygraph have long since ceased being newspapers and become political hearders.

Thinking of starting my usual thread on the Budget ie 2026 Budget predictions.

KPMG have their out, bit weak i thought, will look put fir pwc's which i should see early as an Alumni.

I like the recently added footnote to AI which states this might be a load of *******s.