Having received my new car (I won in the production lottery), I'm not sure the quality is as good as my previous Kodiaq.

 

I was expecting the lack of carpet in the glovebox, the removal of the door safety lights etc, but the overall "feeling" is of lower quality inside the cabin.

 

Could be my imagination....

1 hour ago, xspartx said:

but the overall "feeling" is of lower quality inside the cabin.

 

I'd disagree with you, if I'm honest. Maybe it's a bit more difficult for me to judge as the interior bears so little resemblance to the old one (Edition > VRS, so leather > fabric, different headlining and door panels, etc.), but I can't say I've noticed any lowering of standards or quality. The software in the MIB3 is a step backwards... but the materials used in the cabin all seem to be of perfectly acceptable quality.

2 hours ago, xspartx said:

I'm not sure the quality is as good as my previous Kodiaq    ...the overall "feeling" is of lower quality.

 

Could be my imagination....

 

Well unless you're going to be specific then yes, it's your imagination.

Edited 14 December, 20214 yr by kodiaqsportline

The "feel" of the materials is worse imo.  e.g. the door handles inside are of a poorer quality plastic.

 

 

2 hours ago, xspartx said:

The "feel" of the materials is worse imo.  e.g. the door handles inside are of a poorer quality plastic.

 

 

I have a year old MY21 Sportline and the MY22 Sportline which was sitting in the showroom the other week had exactly the same door card, albeit with the addition of a mid-range speaker.

 

We also have a MY20 Karoq which had the same steering wheel as my previous MY17 Octavia which was the same as the original Kodiaq's, and IMO the new steering wheels are of much higher quality. There's very little difference between MY17 and MY22, but the differences I see are higher quality. Canton for instance is of better quality than the earlier installations. Unlike VW and Audi who IMO have both suffered a significant downgrade in both materials and their implementation.  Just my honest opinion.

 

As Yogi-Bear said, things like software has defo taken a turn for the worse, but but that's true of any tech whether it be your mobile phone, TV or even washing machine, all the latest tech suffers. ( all brought around no doubt by the marketing depts facination with answering questions customers never asked ).

Sorry, not Skoda specific (again) however in later generations I often find materials frequently feel cheaper in pursuit of weight reduction.  My father in law's 10 year old Ford C-Max feels like a luxury motor alongside my wife's 5 year old C-Max, but I know which is lighter (and gives better MPG).  That's progress. 

Tech does not have to get worse, it might get more complex and next year stuff is becoming mandatory on new vehicles.

 

VW Group took doing Software / Tech in house and coc-ked it up in lots of cases and had to get lower emission vehicles out and then any vehicles out even with software not fit for purpose in lots of cases.

https://www.businessinsider.com/volkswagen-investing-in-house-software-2019-9?r=US&IR=T

 

https://www.volkswagenag.com/en/news/2019/06/volkswagen-with-new-software-unit.html

 

 

 

 

Edited 14 December, 20214 yr by roottoot

17 minutes ago, Dappernut said:

Sorry, not Skoda specific (again) however in later generations I often find materials frequently feel cheaper in pursuit of weight reduction.  My father in law's 10 year old Ford C-Max feels like a luxury motor alongside my wife's 5 year old C-Max, but I know which is lighter (and gives better MPG).  That's progress. 

 

Weight reduction, yes these cars just get lighter and lighter dont they, I'm surprised they dont blow away in the wind, I mean the Mini Countryman only weighs 1790kg compared to the original Mini at 580kg, thats some serious flimsyness 🤣

 

I suspect the progress towards weight reduction on the C Max's may not be in the direction you think, the problem is they are all so heavy now that none of us can push one even a couple of foot to realise the new one is even heavier, in the 70's I could push any car around the workshop single handed, on TV last night Guy Martin & Cameron pushed a Trabant with ease up the ramps onto a trailer, I never had winches on my trailers, 2 people could push any vehicle up the ramps.

 

With all due respect, why are people hijacking this thread to voice general opinions?  If you want to talk about a C-Max and Mini's then shouldn't that be on another thread, preferably in the General section?

 

This thread is discussing quality on the new Kodiaq, try keeping on subject.

Yes Sir!  Do you have any other orders for me?

 

Who are the other people hijacking your thread, they may not realise.

Tumbleweed will eventually blow through a thread and some will be happy.  

@kodiaqsportline  if you do not like posts maybe do not read those ones, scan them and move on and there is an ignore button.

On 14/12/2021 at 08:08, xspartx said:

 

 

I was expecting the lack of carpet in the glovebox, the removal of the door safety lights etc, but the overall "feeling" is of lower quality inside the cabin.

 

My 2nd car is a 20 year old mk1 Seat Leon 1.6 base model (same platform as Audi A3/Mk IV Golf/ Mk1 Octavia), came with door safety lights,  gas struts for the bonnet, electric fuel flap cover, entire upper dash is super soft touch material.  Done 150k, drives like new with no rattles and never broken down. Since that generation VAG group have been cost engineering everything to the max.
Personally I hate it, especially on cars costing >£25k . Removing door safety lights to save a few pence, that's just wrong. 

Skoda have history here, they've done it for years, as I'm sure other manufacturers do too.

 

For launch they stuff the vehicles full with features and innovation, the Kodiaq was no exception being their first 7-seater SUV.

 

Then as the product passes through its typical life cycle, cost savings are implemented. This doesn't mean the product doesn't improve, or benefit from additional features not available at launch, but it can often result in what some might see as penny-pinching.

 

It all depends on how you perceive certain aspects of your vehicle. For some it matters, especially those moving from one to another but it could be argued that those new owners who have no experience of the older versions are less likely to notice. Perhaps Skoda are less interested in loyalty / returning customers than they are of attracting new customers and taking market share?

 

This was the list of changes to the Kodiaq a few years ago (MY19 to MY20 I think), there have been plenty of others before and no doubt after...

• Removal of door safety lights, now replaced with reflectors
• Removal of passenger side footwell net
• Removal of chrome on window switches
• Removal of rear door sill plates
• Removal of net program in boot
• Removal of removable flashlight in boot
• Removal of seat rail covers
• Footwell lighting no longer standard, now only included with ambient lighting package
• Exterior mirror lighting is now only available with electric memory front seats
• Interior rear-view mirror now always black instead of headliner colour
• 5 seater: two bag hooks instead of four
• 7 seater with spare wheel: removal of cover under loading floor
• Sleep Package: One blanket now included instead of two
• Umbrella: only one included instead of two
• SportLine/vRS: rear badges now black
• SportLine: air vent frames now black instead of chrome
• vRS/L&K/Scout: Removal of logos on rear seat rows

Edited 15 December, 20214 yr by silver1011

On 15/12/2021 at 12:19, silver1011 said:

Skoda have history here, they've done it for years, as I'm sure other manufacturers do too.

 

For launch they stuff the vehicles full with features and innovation, the Kodiaq was no exception being their first 7-seater SUV.

 

Then as the product passes through its typical life cycle, cost savings are implemented. This doesn't mean the product doesn't improve, or benefit from additional features not available at launch, but it can often result in what some might see as penny-pinching.

 

It all depends on how you perceive certain aspects of your vehicle. For some it matters, especially those moving from one to another but it could be argued that those new owners who have no experience of the older versions are less likely to notice. Perhaps Skoda are less interested in loyalty / returning customers than they are of attracting new customers and taking market share?

 

This was the list of changes to the Kodiaq a few years ago (MY19 to MY20 I think), there have been plenty of others before and no doubt after...

• Removal of door safety lights, now replaced with reflectors  - Confirmed
• Removal of passenger side footwell net  - Confirmed
• Removal of chrome on window switches  - Can't remember what these looked like
• Removal of rear door sill plates - or these
• Removal of net program in boot- I think that's still there (though I don't use it)
• Removal of removable flashlight in boot - Confirmed
• Removal of seat rail covers - Can't remember what these looked like
• Footwell lighting no longer standard, now only included with ambient lighting package- That is still there
• Exterior mirror lighting is now only available with electric memory front seats - Can't comment
• Interior rear-view mirror now always black instead of headliner colour - Confirmed
• 5 seater: two bag hooks instead of four
• 7 seater with spare wheel: removal of cover under loading floor - ?
• Sleep Package: One blanket now included instead of two-?
• Umbrella: only one included instead of two- Confirmed
• SportLine/vRS: rear badges now black
• SportLine: air vent frames now black instead of chrome
• vRS/L&K/Scout: Removal of logos on rear seat rows